John LEWIS Born Abt 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia

[Southern Cross]

Looking for Information about the marriage of
John Lewis Born Abt. 1844 Gloucestshire - Died 1901 Australia. to Unknown Female in England.  The Unknown Female died (Date Unknown) and John moved to Australia where he married Martha Grundy.
John's Father is Daniel Lewis of Brenconshire and his father is Edenezer Lewis of Brenconshire. Unable to find any reference about the married or death of his first wife.

John is my GG Grandfather. I have the Australian side of the history but finding the England / Wales side has proven troubling. 

[KGarrad]

Welcome to RootsChat!

The father's place of birth would be Breconshire, aka Brecknockshire, a county in Wales.

[KGarrad]

Wrong family!

Possible 1851 Census; St John The Baptist, Gloucestershire, England
Class: HO107; Piece: 1962; Folio: 167; Page: 33

Hester Lewis  Daughter  F  26  Dressmaker  b Gloucestershire
Emma Lewis  Daughter  F  23  Dressmaker  b Gloucestershire
Amelia Lewis  Daughter  F  19  b Gloucestershire
William Lewis  Son  M  16 App(rentice) to Brush Maker  b Gloucestershire
James Lewis  Son  M  13  Scholar  b Gloucestershire
Sophia Lewis  Daughter  F  11  b Gloucestershire
Arthur Lewis  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Gloucestershire
John Lewis  Son  M  8  Scholar  b Gloucestershire
Henry P Lewis  Son  M  4  b Gloucestershire

[KGarrad]

Wrong family!

Births from GRO:

    LEWIS, ARTHUR        (Mother's maiden name:)  CHANDLER     
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in GLOUCESTER UNION  Volume 11  Page 328

   LEWIS, JOHN        CHANDLER     
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in GLOUCESTER UNION  Volume 11  Page 328

    LEWIS, HENRY  PALMER      CHANDLER     
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in GLOUCESTER UNION  Volume 11  Page 358


N.B. Civil Registration began on 1st July 1837,m and the Registration Districts were originally based on the existing Poor Law Unions
Hence the word "Union" in the name of Gloucester Registration District.

[Milliepede]

John moved to Australia where he married Martha Grundy.

What year was that please? 

Any idea when he moved to Australia?

[Milliepede]

This one from the 1841 census in Gloucestershire has a Daniel but John is born c1839

Daniel Lewis 30
Eliza 25
Mary 4
William 3
John 2

What occupation did your John Lewis have please?  This one is a stoker in the Royal Navy so opportunities for travel there.  1871 says he is married.  1861 says he is single.

Might not be the right man but this one married between 1861-1871.

[rosie99]

Is he the John Lewis that married Martha Grundy in Sydney in 1894.

Could you please post the full details from both his marriage and death certificate.

Could you also give full details of Daniel Lewis birth date and place

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Is this his death?

John LEWIS
DOD:    1901
Death Place:    Hunters Hill, New South Wales
Father:    Daniel
Mother:    Mary

If so it gives his motherr's first name as Mary.


Regards,
Daisy

[Cas (stallc)]

I think there has been a mix up in family trees for this John Lewis b Gloucestershire c1844. A number of trees have my family connected, but as far as my research there is no Gloucestershire connection.

Ebenezer Lewis 1782 - 1847 is my 4th great grandfather (DNA verification)

Daniel Lewis c1812 - d bef 1871 is brother to my 3rd great grandmother Mary Lewis b 1830 Ystradgynlais, Breconshire.

Daniel did have a son John bc 1842/3 Ystradgynlais, his mother from census was Elizabeth, nee Williams from marriage in 1832 and children's GRO birth reg. John still in Ystradgynlais with widowed mother, unmarried in 1871.

Interestingly I have many DNA connections for Grundy decendants through her mother...Mary Lloyd. My 2nd great grandmother was Jane, sister to Mary, daughters of Thomas. Jane was the only one that stayed in Wales when they up sticks and moved to Tasmania in 1855.

Welcome to Rootschat 

Cas