Johanna SAUTER (researching)

[JeanPierre]

Hello to everybody,
I'm searching traces of my mother Johanna SAUTER born in GermanyStuttgart the 15th 04-1907. She left Germany about the year 1924 with a british family. (she was looking for the children in that family acording to the family history.....). She attended a nursinschool in London/Beckenham. She left England oktober 1930 and was enrolled in Etterbeek (Brussels-Belgium) th 25-10-1930.
Could somebody help me to find informations concerning my mother in England : incoming, outygoing nursing school,.... Every informations is welcome.
Thanks allready to everybody.
I live in Belgium and my name is : Jean-Pierre VAN DAMME I am 85 old
Please excuse my language errors. ...I'm not using English every date

[fiddlerslass]

Hello Jean - Pierre

This is going to be a difficult search.

 As a foreign national at that date she would not have had a vote and will not appear on the electoral rolls, which would have given her address. I have checked the available nursing registers on the Ancestry website and didn't find her. I also checked the available passenger lists on that site.

The nursing training at Beckenham hospital didn't start until 1941 according to a Google search, so perhaps she trained in London. Or did she train in child care rather than nursing?

The most well known institution training nannies was founded by Emily Ward in 1892 as the Training School for Ladies as Children’s Nurses in Norland Place, London. It soon became known as the Norland Institute, and celebrated its’ 125th anniversary in 2017.

[JeanPierre]

Thank you very much for your message.
I know that this is a difficult search. I am allready searching for years. And the belgian archives from the 2 hospitals she worked for where distroyed…..
My searching for a nurse could be an error….. My sister always told me that our mother became a nurse during her stay in England. This could be : "Oh, my , our Mother, such a wonderfull women…… "

Yesterday I receaved an information from Etterbeek where she was anrolled with as job in french : "Gouvernante". This could be in English "Nanny". Could this information help in this search ?
Have a good day.
Jean-Pierre
Jean-Pierre

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat

As she was German could she have been a Governess?

https://en.langenscheidt.com/german-english/gouvernante

Regards,
Daisy

[maddys52]

Welcome to RootsChat Jean Pierre.

There is this advertisement that sounds possible - correct surname and age, location and likely occupation.
Thursday,  May 29, 1930
Publication: The Times

[maddys52]

In 1921 at 1 Park rd, Beckenham is the family of Stanley GLANFIELD (47, clothing manufacturer, Director "G Glanfield and Son Ltd"). They have 3 servants  (a cook, nurse and parlourmaid). It is possible it was the same family still there in 1930.

Modified to add:
Though the property, 1 Park road, Beckenham" was listed for sale in 1929
Tuesday,  Apr. 9, 1929
Publication: The Times

[JeanPierre]

Hello Maddy, Daisy   
Thank you very, very much for this informations. I am going to search for that family Glanfield in Hamburg, Germany.
 May be they had some body of that name in Hamburg.
Till now I could not find any traces of Johanna SAUTER in passengers lists comming in England, or in Belgium or going out From Germany, or England.
I could also adress (or try to... .) me to the police departement in Beckenham. What do you think about that ?
Kisses
Jean-Pierre

[fiddlerslass]

Hello Jean- Pierre

There was a requirement for aliens to register with the police between the 2 world wars and up to the early 1970's. My father was a German who had to do this, as he came here in 1950.
I think these records are now unlikely to be retained by the local police, but surviving ones covering the London area may be at the National Archives at Kew. 

You can read more here about which ones are available

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/aliens-registration-cards-1918-1957/

[sparrett]

Hi,
I think Stanley GLANFFIELD died in 1939 in England.
The probate was granted to wife Annie.

Name Stanley GLANFIELD
Death Date 13 Feb. 1939
Death Place Middlesex, England
Probate Date 27 Mar. 1939
Probate Registry London, England

Miss SAUTER might have got a job from the advertisement she put in the paper in May 1930.
Maybe she accompanied a family to Europe to be home to enrol by October 1930.

Sue