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Susannah Wells
« on: Wednesday 02 July 25 14:50 BST (UK) »
I cannot find very much information on Mrs Wells at all. She married Richard Joseph Binns Gadney some time after Richard’s first wife Mary Moore passed away in 1832 but before 1841 where she is listed as being married to Joseph (Richard). The 1841 and 1881 Census both have Susan’s Birth as 1816 but I cannot find any birth. Can someone please help me?

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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 15:25 BST (UK) »
Your subject header says Susannah but on all bar one census entry she is Susan and is Susan on her death reg.

Also Susan on this adult baptismal entry at St Pauls Boughton Chester on 21.1.1884 which appears to relate to their son Francis born 1854

Born Oct 10th 1854  Baptised January 21st 1884
Christian name  Francis
Parents Richard Joseph Binns Gadney & Susan
Address 27 Railway Terrace

You haven't included her birthplace.  1851 shows Barton Oxfordshire but 1871 appears to say
??Heyford??  All others are just Oxford

In 1841 the only children born after 1832 were Thomas aged 3 & Alfred aged 1 which helps narrow down a marriage as Thomas's birth was registered June qtr 1838

Her birthyear only varies very slightly from 1861
1851 birthyear is 1813
1861    1815
1871   1814
1881    1816
1891  1815

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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 16:12 BST (UK) »
I cannot find very much information on Mrs Wells at all. She married Richard Joseph Binns Gadney some time after Richard’s first wife Mary Moore passed away in 1832 but before 1841 where she is listed as being married to Joseph (Richard). The 1841 and 1881 Census both have Susan’s Birth as 1816 but I cannot find any birth. Can someone please help me?

She's not likely to be Mrs Wells at all if she married Richard Gadney, unless you are suggesting she was a widow at marriage, in which case her birth would be recorded under a different surname.

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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 16:19 BST (UK) »
I cannot find very much information on Mrs Wells at all. She married Richard Joseph Binns Gadney some time after Richard’s first wife Mary Moore passed away in 1832 but before 1841 where she is listed as being married to Joseph (Richard). The 1841 and 1881 Census both have Susan’s Birth as 1816 but I cannot find any birth. Can someone please help me?

She's not likely to be Mrs Wells at all if she married Richard Gadney, unless you are suggesting she was a widow at marriage, in which case her birth would be recorded under a different surname.

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She must have been Wells, The surname became double barrelled for a few generations after there marriage to Gadney-Wells. They must have took both Gadney from Richard and Wells from Susan. She would have been Mrs Gadney not Mrs Wells. Thats my typo


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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 17:25 BST (UK) »
Childrens birth registrations show mmn as Wells
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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 19:25 BST (UK) »
Childrens birth registrations show mmn as Wells

Susan is still being named under her maiden name Wells in a newspaper article about her and Joseph (Richard) in 1840 but by 1841 she was under the Gadney surname. So sometime in either 1840 or 1841 she got married to Joseph.

"Susan Wells and Joseph Gadney, for assaulting Mrs. Grainge ; Wells was fined 10s, Gadney fined 5s."

Published: Saturday 02 May 1840
Newspaper: Oxford University and City Herald

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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 19:37 BST (UK) »
By 1840 they had 2 children so the fact she is referred to as Susan Wells in the article coupled with the absence of a marriage entry post 1840 would suggest they never married
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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 19:49 BST (UK) »
By 1840 they had 2 children so the fact she is referred to as Susan Wells in the article coupled with the absence of a marriage entry post 1840 would suggest they never married

How would the children have the mothers maiden name if they were never married then?

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Re: Susannah Wells
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 July 25 21:39 BST (UK) »
Have been looking at the newspapers, there are a couple of reports in the paper of a Mary Gadney buried 17 May 1832 and both articles say she was married to Joseph Gadney, fisherman. Haven't found another burial yet for 1832.
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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