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R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« on: Monday 30 June 25 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hello all,
I have a record for a John Read who joined the Royal Navy in 1861 as a Boy 2 Class on the HMS Pembroke. His 10 year continuous service started in 1865, at which time he was still on the Pembroke and still a Boy 2 Class. On the front page of his record is the reference "R.q. Forte 24 Sep 68". Could this mean that he deserted the HMS Forte? It sailed for India in the October of that year and John Read is not on the Forte in the 1871 census. Unfortunately his service history pages are blank.
If it does mean that he deserted, I imagine it would have been quite easy to hide in London (he came from the Lambeth/Southwark area). Would he have been able to just go about his life as normal amongst the crowds of London until he was forgotten? Or would he most likely have been captured? If he were, what then? Would he have done penal service or would he have ended up back on a ship? If so for how long?
He was witness at his brother's (James Read) wedding in 1873 but then fathered children with his brother's wife in 1876 and 1881 (John's name is on the birth certificates). In the 1881 census, James Read appears as the head of the family but with John's birth date and occupation. When the wife died in 1881, John Read is given as the widower.
Any help would be much appreciated!

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Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 June 25 22:28 BST (UK) »
I can’t help you with the reference R.Q but HMS Pembroke was a stone ship, in other words the Royal Naval Barracks in Chatham. Had he deserted it should say Run on his records, that’s the Naval term for desertion.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 July 25 08:52 BST (UK) »
Hi,
R.Q. on a Royal Navy service record means Run (with a query). It means any man below the rank of officer belonging to a ship under sailing orders who is absent without leave (AWOL). The captain is to place an R.Q. against his name on the ships books. The captain can remove same if he is returned or apprehended and an investigation finds the man did not deliberately desert.

Should there be clear proof that any such absentee had intended to desert he is to be summarily dealt with for desertion and an R substituted for the R.Q. on ships books.
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Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 July 25 09:02 BST (UK) »
That’s something you have taught me Hugh. The army is more my meagre knowledge.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 July 25 14:06 BST (UK) »
R.Q. on a Royal Navy service record means Run (with a query). It means any man below the rank of officer belonging to a ship under sailing orders who is absent without leave (AWOL). The captain is to place an R.Q. against his name on the ships books. The captain can remove same if he is returned or apprehended and an investigation finds the man did not deliberately desert.

Should there be clear proof that any such absentee had intended to desert he is to be summarily dealt with for desertion and an R substituted for the R.Q. on ships books.

This is the sort of clear and informed reply that really makes me wish we had a 'Like' button on RootsChat.

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Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 July 25 16:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies! I've checked the 1861 census again and it was in fact the vessel HMS Pembroke in Harwich Harbour. I think it might have been a coastguard vessel.
Thank you for confirming that "R.q." means he deserted. Does anyone know where to search to see if there was any follow up? Was he found? Was he punished? If so, how? Or would all of that have been in his naval record? Both pages of the record concerning his naval history are blank. Could that mean he stayed AWOL?
Thanks again!