Married or Not

[Neale1961]

There is birth you might consider investigating -
Kathleen Black COWPER in 1913 Morningside, mother BLACK

She married Colombo in 1939.

[softly softly]

COLOMBO
WILLIAM E

COWPER
KATHLEEN BLACK

1939
685 / 4 / 1695
St Giles

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COWPER
KATHLEEN BLACK
mmn BLACK
F
1913
685 / 6 / 727
Morningside

Parents Robert Cowper & Annie Cowper nee' Black.

SS

[woiiftm]

Kathleen Black Colombo died in 1943.
 Have you looked at her death certificate for information?

Hello,
No hadn't found her yet. Given her probable date of birth she might be a niece of Elizabeth. I'd need to do a bit more searching into siblings.
Cheers

[woiiftm]

COLOMBO
WILLIAM E

COWPER
KATHLEEN BLACK

1939
685 / 4 / 1695
St Giles

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COWPER
KATHLEEN BLACK
mmn BLACK
F
1913
685 / 6 / 727
Morningside

Parents Robert Cowper & Annie Cowper nee' Black.

SS

Hi thanks for this, I'll check Annie as I couldn't find a marriage for the one I have as Elizabeths' sister

[softly softly]

Annie Black married Robert Cowper 9th September 1905, Edinburgh. Robert was a Piano Tuner.



SS

[woiiftm]

Annie Black married Robert Cowper 9th September 1905, Edinburgh. Robert was a Piano Tuner.



SS

Hi, and thanks. This is the last sibling for Elizabeth that I had no info on, other than birth year.
Cheers

[woiiftm]

 So can I now assume that Elizabeth was never legally married, and that they were merely living together or have I missed something?

[Forfarian]

Can anyone explain for us please the apparent discrepancy in information re Elizabeth on the certificates?

If Elsie's birth certificate says she was illegitimate, and Elizabeth's death certificate says she was single, it looks as if on her marriage certificate Elsie was being economical with the truth. This is not at all unusual.

[Neale1961]

Even though not married to him, have you considered that John Bruce may not be completely fictitious.
Could he have been the Assurance Company Manager, and Elsie's father?


In 1901 (in the directories) there is a John Bruce, Insurance Superintendent, at Comely Bank House, Strathmore Street, Perth.