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Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 10:11 »
It was a png file, maybe too big, but it stopped me sending anything else.  Later it came up about RootsChat knowing about the problem and I think it said it was fixing it

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Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 10:16 »
21/07/1922 he left UK for Cape Town (first class) a civil servant
1924    UK to Sydney
1926   CB marries Wilga Mary Austin- what month?
26/06/1926 Brisbane to Plymouth (UK) with Wilga he was a salesman
1926 UK to Australia with Wilga - he’d “shown her” to his parents and she was pregnant
03/02/1927. Peter Barrie Sutcliffe born
04/07/27   CB left Wilga.  He appears in court for not paying maintenance and is a traveller for paintings
1929 March   CB given probation for fraud working for Dominion Portraiture Company
1930 May   CB and Fay left Auckland for Fiji
1930 September CB and Fay return from Fiji to Auckland with 3 month baby Barrie Grenville
1935   Fay Ellen Sutcliffe Born Brisbane
1936    Fay and CB in Brisbane
07/11/1937    Alison Marie Sutcliffe Born Auckland NZ
1939. “Stuck” in NZ because of the war
1948 ? May Auckland to London with Fay and 3 children he secretary, she artiste

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Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 11:46 »
Did CB divorce Wilga, or did she divorce him  :-\  What happened to her after they separated.

Do you have the birth certificates of  Fay Ellen Sutcliffe (1935) and Alison Marie Sutcliffe (1937)
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Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 11:55 »
I don’t know anything about the divorce, but Wilga had quite a colourful family and with connections to the Balarat Jam Company
I don’t have any birth certificates
From all the investigations and help from RootsChat I think that Charles Barrie possibly married Wilga in a hurry, regretted it, was a drinker and philanderer and probably met Fay in 1927 or earlier when he was a traveller for paintings
From ship records we know that he was with Fay from at least 1930 and she is always referred to as Mrs Sutcliffe although that may not be true.  They could have married elsewhere as the 1936 Trove article
“ She has already spent five years in New Zealand, a year in the South Seas, and several months in the southern States, which she will eventually revisit.  When she finally leaves Queensland, however, she will return to England, she hopes, via Malay, Colombo, and Bombay”
I have tried to look for a Fay Hoban with a mother’s maiden name Granville which was their son Barrie’s middle name, but not had any luck