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I am hoping for some help to read the NZ Directories correctly for a house location.  I am looking at the 1905 directory for ChCh for the house location of William Welsh occ. Blacksmith who lived in Hawdon Street (page 232).  My understanding is he lived near Matson st which no longer appears on google maps however there is a Maldon st.  (I have not found any road name changes in the ChCh City Library street name changes but see there is a Matson Ave in St Albans and a Matson Road in Papanui.)  I realise this area of ChCh is very industrial now but would love to know an approximate location of their home.  When looking at google maps would the house have been located in the area now occupied by Phantom Billstickers and LM Architectural Builders

Directions in summary:

……….Brougham st………..
Left side from Carlyle st
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 …here is Wordsworth st……
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…Coleridge st intersects….
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…here is Matson st………
100 Welsh Wm, blacksmith

Many thanks for your expertise  :)
Welsh: Kilbarchan;Canada; New Zealand
MacArthur:North Knapdale
 Weckesser: Germany, Netherands, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia
O'Brien: Australia, New Zealand

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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 08:10 »
This blog post says that Matson Street was renamed to Maldon Street in 1926.

https://lytteltonwitch.wordpress.com/2020/01/24/maldon-street-in-the-suburb-of-sydenham-christchurch/
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« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 08:21 »
I’m posting this in its entirety in case it is of wider interest.

From: Star (Christchurch), Issue 17855, 25 May 1926, Page 10

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COUNCIL DECIDES ON STREET NAMES.
CITIZENS MAY LODGE OBJECTIONS TO THEM.
Citizens are entitled to lodge objections against the alteration of certain street names by the City Council, which resolved last night to make the alterations by special order, to be confirmed on June 21.

Following is the list of streets it is proposed to rename:—
Avonglade, Richmond, to be Glade Avenue.
Albert Street, Linwood, to be Dobson Street.
Alexandra Street, Richmond, to be Ashby Street.
Church Lane, Linwood, to be Cheshire Lane.
Church Road, Opawa, to be Locarno Street.
Church Street, Opawa, to be Vincent Street.
Church Street, Papanui, to be Bellvue Avenue.
Cumberland Street, Richmond, from Vogel Street to London Street, to be Pavitt Street.
Domain Road, Richmond, to be Freeman Street.
Dyer’s Road, East Linwood, to be Barker Street.
Edmund Street, Richmond, to be Bruge Street.
Elm Street, Central, to be Leech Street.
King’s Lane, Central, to be Plymouth Lane.
Langdon’s Road, Papanui, to be Lambeth Street.
Matson Street, Sydenham, to be Maldon Street.
North Avon Road, from Fowke Street northward, to be M’Leod Street.
North Avon Road, from London Street northward, to be Fitzgerald Avenue
North Avon Road, from Fitzgerald Avenue, eastward, to be Avalon Street.
Park Road, Papanui, to be Windermere Road.
Parkes Street, Woolston, to be Mackenzie Avenue.
Perceval Street, Papanui, to be Perry Street.
River Street, Woolston, to be Oak Street.
Rosewarne Street, Papanui, to be Aorangi Road.
St Andrew’s Terrace, to be Walnut Avenue.
St John Street, Papanui, to be Blair Street.
Sheen Street, North Richmond, to be North Avon Road.
Station Road, Opawa, to be Lucas Street.
Tweed Street, Richmond, from Vogel Street to Forth Street, to be Vogel Street.
William Street, Papanui, to be Wyndham Street.

The only discussion was over the proposal to change the name of River Road. Woolston to Kowai Street: Councillor A. D. Ford pointed out that there was already a Kowai Street in Riccarton. Various other names were suggested, including Veronica Street. Several councillors favoured this name, but it was finally decided to alter the name to Oak Street.
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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 08:48 »
Detail clipped from this 1922 map (use link within the page to view the zoomable version):

https://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Heritage/Maps/141654.asp
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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 10:59 »
Hi, many thanks for all this valuable and interesting information.  Having spent the evening on papers past with this new information I have discovered so much more about my family and the house was still standing in 1973!  So sad there are no photos (not that I can find!). 

Would I be correct in thinking the house would be on the right side of Hawdon street walking away from Brougham st towards Matson/Maldon street?
Welsh: Kilbarchan;Canada; New Zealand
MacArthur:North Knapdale
 Weckesser: Germany, Netherands, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia
O'Brien: Australia, New Zealand

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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 11:28 »
I must admit I’m having difficulty reconciling your directory extract with what the map shows.
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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 12:30 »
The area is defined more clearly on this 1962 map:

https://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Heritage/Maps/228452-11.asp

of which I'm posting a clip below. Assuming that the area had not already been redeveloped at this date, and also assuming that the small circles denote individual properties, I don't understand how there would have been a number 100 Hawdon Street. How did/does street numbering work in NZ: are numbers continuous as in the UK, or is there some sort of block-based system with not all numbers used, as occurs in the USA?
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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 13:56 »
Generally in NZ the street numbering is odd numbers on one side and even numbers on the other.

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Re: Understanding NZ Directories street orientations
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 19:53 »
Hello.

Have no time to assist you now, but I would suggest that you spend some time exploring

https://retrolens.co.nz/

the site takes a little time exploring to find how to select an area of interest, and to zoom in, but the aerial photos, through the years, supply a lot of info of how an area developed.

Also try the City library and the University Libraries for their holdings of old maps. Any documentation, or advert mentioning land title descriptions can also greatly assist in locating old properties.

Alan.
Early Settlers & Heritage. Family History.