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Finding Victoria Bizat
« on: Friday 27 June 25 10:42 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help please.
Marriage 1857 Liverpool.
Paul Bizat born France c 1836
Victoria Shearman born Ireland c 1842

1871 they are in West Derby with children
1881 in Liscard Cheshire.
1891 in Aughton Lancashire

Paul Pierce Bizat  Anglais National
Death Date 1899
Death Place D'Arveyres, France
Piece Description   RG 35: Miscellaneous Foreign Deaths, 1830-1921
It is in French . Spouse Victoria Shearman . Anglais.
A translation would be good if anyone can help. Are there details of his death.

I cannot find a death or remarriage in Britain for Victoria, where has she gone.
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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 June 25 12:03 BST (UK) »
Link to the image: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1993/images/41814_b157224-00199

My French is very rusty but I think it says that he died on 5 August 1899 aged 59; lived with his wife Victoria Shearman at Siston in the commune of Arveyres; born at Bordeaux, son of Jean Baptiste Henri Buzat and Jeanne M? Touttal deceased. 
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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 June 25 12:11 BST (UK) »
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Paul Pierce Bizat


Mistranscription of Pierre
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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 June 25 13:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Friday 27 June 25 12:03 BST (UK)
Link to the image: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1993/images/41814_b157224-00199

My French is very rusty but I think it says that he died on 5 August 1899 aged 59; lived with his wife Victoria Shearman at Siston in the commune of Arveyres; born at Bordeaux, son of Jean Baptiste Henri Buzat and Jeanne M? Touttal deceased. 

I read his age as  62, Victoria 59, a naturalised English, he and Victoria were "sans profession"/not working". I read Foussat Jeanne Méloé? deceased.

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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 June 25 13:30 BST (UK) »
Filae has an index for a Paul Pierre Bizat, naissance/birth 1837, Gironde. Their index doesn't drill down below Département.

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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 June 25 13:31 BST (UK) »
https://archives.gironde.fr/ark:/25651/vtadf99f3c88ccdc1a0/daogrp/0/5
Also can be found here on the Gironde archives (I don't have Ancestry so don't know if it's the same).

Lists him as aged 62 and his wife as aged 59.

Also on there are some passport records for him and his father:
https://archives.gironde.fr/archive/resultats/passeports/n:632?RECH_persname=Bizat&type=passeports
The one in 1859 mentions he is accompanied by his wife and child.

Now, one of their children, Louis, married in Bourdeaux in 1904, and by this time both parents are deceased:
https://archives.bordeaux-metropole.fr/ark:/75241/vta4a2046cc83ca2e7f/daoloc/0/186

The trick with French deaths is that women are almost always listed under maiden names.
So here she is, Victoria Shearman (veuve Bizat)
https://archives.bordeaux-metropole.fr/ark:/75241/vta62c295778659eddc/daoloc/0/41

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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 June 25 13:51 BST (UK) »
Well done. Thanks for that.
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Re: Finding Victoria Bizat
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 June 25 14:04 BST (UK) »
Snipped from "Galignani's Messenger, July 26 1857

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 June 25 14:30 BST (UK) »
Confirming his parents -
Snipped from "Le Mémorial bordelais:feuille politique & littéraire, 8 Septembre 1857

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