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USAHi All,

I have found myself looking for my paternal grandfathers father after DNA confirmed that who he thought was his dad wasn’t.

My grandad was Peter Wilson from Hoxton, London in 1933, born to Stella Startin from Nottingham. Her husband/partner was Albert Wilson from London.

Albert once said to my grandad words to the effect of  “I’ve raised you as mine, however you aren’t. Your father is an ice cream seller”. That was that. My grandad never questioned this. Never asked his mother. He only mentioned this again later in life. No other family members knew.
 
Albert is noted on my grandads birth certificate and DNA matches are not close enough to work out his exact parent. Or if they are they themselves don’t know their family history.  So research has been hard.

I have spent years grouping DNA matches into different families. I believe I come from the Hartridge Presley family from Kent. I also have connections to the Epling Lively family from Virginia USA. 

I would like to try and find the missing links to my family tree and wonder how I may find out who exactly fathered my grandad.

If anyone has any advice or knows of any connections it would be greatly appreciated.

Kindest regards
Josie
Bethnal Green, London

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Re: Looking for my long lost family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Josie,

Did your Grandfather have an older sister?

I have found an article in the South Notts Echo 7 April 1928 where Stella Annie Startin is claiming Charles James Bloodworth was the father of her daughter who was born on 4 February 1928. I think the daughter was Josephine M Startin, passed away in 2016.

Stella is described as a nurse maid of 7 Sprout Lane, Arnold.

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Re: Looking for my long lost family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Pinetree,

Yes my great nan was Stella Annie Startin. 
B:21 Apr 1907 Cannock, Staffordshire, England
D:28 Jan 1984 Hackney, London, England

Her first daughter Josephine was born in Notts, in 1928. Oh this is incredible news. I’m in touch with Josephine’s granddaughter who has been trying to find out her great grandfather. Oh wow!!!!

Is there any paperwork with this?

So excited. Kindest regards
Josie

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Re: Looking for my long lost family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:24 BST (UK) »
I’ll try to post the newspaper clipping

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:29 BST (UK) »
Can’t find any other reports after the postponement of the hearing at the moment but will keep looking.

Does DNA suggest Josephine and your grandfather did not have the same father?

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:31 BST (UK) »
Great progress so far.

You seem to be getting there and if I may this is my tale, hopefully it will help.

My Paternal line was questionable having no DNA matches who I recognised.  To cut a long tale down to manageable reading, DNA tests by Paternal “Cousins” revealed that they are not my Biological Cousins as suspected my Dad was not my Biological Father.

So with that I set about finding who my Biological Father was.

In my DNA matches, Neville and I share 240cM according to our Ancestry DNA tests and that puts him in the Second Cousin territory.

Neville has a family tree of him and his father who was called Samuel, that was all I had to work with.

I built a tree with Neville as the Home person and it quickly expanded to over 500 people.

Neville’s Grandfather Dominic was one of 11 children and this was the place to start as with him probably being a Second Cousin to me Neville’s Great Grandfather Guillio (Italian b1852) was probably also my Great Grandfather.

With 11 children I probably fit into one of these 11 lines so I started researching each of them and also put my DNA on My Heritage and ftDNA and from each of these I found a DNA matches who are both sharing over 100cM with me which puts them as my likely 2C1R.  Each of these belong on a separate line to each other and to Neville, so that whittled the 11 lines down to 8. 

WW1 came and 3 of Guillio’s 11 children were killed in active surface so we are then down to 5 lines.  1 never had children and 2 more had children but not male and the age range of them did not fit.

This gave me 2 possible lines into which I fit and looking at the 2 lines there were three males born between 1914 and 1924 so I had 3 potentials as my Father, with 2 of the 3 being Brothers and living in the Town where I was born.

Letters were written and a response gave me hope from the response I found where my probable Half Sister or Half Cousin was living so I paid her a visit.

On the first sight of each other we knew we were probable Half Siblings and when her DNA test results came in, yes we are Siblings.  A year later our relationship continues to grow stronger and stronger. 

We have a lot of time to make up for.



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Re: Looking for my long lost family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:33 BST (UK) »
This is absolutely incredible. I can’t believe it. After all these years of searching.

Do you know the outcome of this case??


All we know is that Josie was raised by Stella’s mum and dad in Nottingham while Stella moved to London and had her other children. One being my grandad.

Honestly thank you so much for taking the time to have a look for me. Incredible.

DNA suggests that Josie’s granddaughter is my dads Half 1st cousin 1x removed
Paternal side
210 cM | 3% shared DNA
So I’m gathering not the same father????

Can’t thank you enough
Josie

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:36 BST (UK) »
What an amazing story Biggles. I can’t believe you managed to solve your family history. This gives me hope.

Was a pleasure to read and thank you for sharing.

I too have Italian heritage. My nan was from Calabria.

Kindest regards
Josie

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 14:42 BST (UK) »
If it’s the correct Charles James Bloodworth he was married in 1919, maybe Stella was unaware of this at the time.

Glad to have found something of interest even if it hasn’t helped with the identity of your Grandfather’s father so far.

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