Author Topic: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham  (Read 296 times)

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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:16 BST (UK) »
From my earlier posting;

1881 she has a Daug Kate with her ???


Must be Susie Kate Dinham Born 24 September 1858 bap. 3 February 1867 parents William and Mary
as posted by amondg

M/C to John Yendall should solve your problem :)
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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:25 BST (UK) »
Baptism St David Exeter

Susie Kate Dinham Born 24 September 1858 bap. 3 February 1867 parents William and Mary
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William Denham bap 4 April 1847 St Sidwell, Exeter - William and Mary - father Horse keeper

Amelia bap. 13 November 1844 St Sidwell  - Horse keeper

Emma Virginia Denham bap 1 April 1849  Horse Keeper

Elizabeth  bap 7 July 1853    - father Ostler

Thanks so much for all these! Really helpful.

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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:27 BST (UK) »
Exactly.

I cannot find that William and Mary registered any of their children.

It feels that not registering any of them must have been intentional. It would be interesting to know what percentage of births in the 19th century are estimated to have not been registered and how this went down in the decades to 1900.

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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:29 BST (UK) »
From my earlier posting;

1881 she has a Daug Kate with her ???


Must be Susie Kate Dinham Born 24 September 1858 bap. 3 February 1867 parents William and Mary
as posted by amondg

M/C to John Yendall should solve your problem :)

Yes, I think so too as Susanna or Susan is with the family int he 1861 and 1871 census.

Yes, so indeed need to get that marriage of Mary Denham to John Yendall to prove it.

But I don't think Devon marriages are online.


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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:34 BST (UK) »
jonwicken, firstly just wanted to say how pleased I was that you accepted that the William & Mary you were following were not the same couple having unregistered children during the 1840/50's. It really makes a change that posters admit going wrong (and if were all honest most of us have at some point). Are you wanting to still gather info on this family, ie baptism dates etc.

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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:42 BST (UK) »
jonwicken, firstly just wanted to say how pleased I was that you accepted that the William & Mary you were following were not the same couple having unregistered children during the 1840/50's. It really makes a change that posters admit going wrong (and if were all honest most of us have at some point). Are you wanting to still gather info on this family, ie baptism dates etc.

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Thank you. Yes when people don't acknowledge an error they have made, it is very frustrating indeed!

I always double check anything I read or see myself and have had to inform many people over the years they have got something wrong, and as you say often people don't like or accept it!

My head is in a spin with all these small DNA matches to Dinham and Denham families in my late father's DNA and the DNA of a distant cousin of his.

I am hoping that DNA might help me crack the origin of my my ancestor Robert Denham (c1773/4-1837) who married Mary Lepine in London in 1803. Incidentally, his details are wrong in dozens of family trees on ancestry as being born in 1779 (that Robert is actually too young and actually died as a baby) and also dying in 1838 (that is a different Robert Denham who married Mary Adams and was born in Norwich in 1771). So I see the errors and often it is impossible to correct them when across multiple trees and they become alternative facts!

I think what I really need the most now is to see the father's name on the 1872 marriage of Eliza Denham to Thomas Ellis to confirm she is William's daughter.

Then I need to see the father's name on the marriage of widow Mary Denham to John Yendall in 1868 to see if it helps me find her first marriage to William Dinham.

Thanks again for all the help. 

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Re: Exeter 1872 Marriage - Thomas Ellis and Eliza Denham
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 25 June 25 12:47 BST (UK) »
In 1851 William Denham was an Ostler

    1861 Horse Keeper

Baptism of Amelia his occupation --Horse Keeper         Bap 13th November 1844
Baptism of William his occupation--Horse Keeper         Bap 4th April 1847
Baptism of Emma Victoria DINHAM--Horse Keeper.      Bap 1st April 1849
Baptism of Eliza Caroline DURHAM--Ostler                  Bap 6th April 1851
Elizabeth --Ostler                                                     Bap 7th July 1853

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