Englishby sisters - Ardee Townparks

[GDub71]

Anyone able to help identify the parents of my Gt Grandmother Mary Englishby who live in Townparks, Ardee with her 2 sisters Margaret and Catherin?. The 3 sisters regularly appear in court records from 1877 to 1901, mainly concerning neighbourly disputes. It doesn't seem any of them married, althugh Mary did have 2 children; a Mary McKay and Lawrence Kane, my Gt Grandfather b.1887.  It would seem from the 1901 census and death index that they were born roughly:

Mary (b.1851-56, d.1901)
Margaret (b.1850-58, d.1910)
Catherine (b.1862-65, d.1912)

There are other Englisgby's in the area, but I'm struggling to make a hard connection.

[ColC]

Irish Civil Birth Records began in 1864. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie

There were other Englishby births in Ardee in the years following 1864 including the one below, could this be Catherine.

Birth of CATHARINE ENGLISHBY in 1865
Group registration ID: 7750308
SR District/Reg Area: Ardee
Child's Sex: N/R
Mother's Birth Surname: N/R (incorrect)

Born 1st October 1865, father James a Farmer, mother Mary, formerly McDonnell.

Thomas & Jane Corbally also had children in the period 1864-1870

Colin

[ColC]

I note on the death records that Catherine reported the death of her sister Margaret.

Catherine's death states age 63 (1849)?

Both the death of Mary & the birth of Lawrence were reported by the Workhouse staff.

Colin

[GDub71]

Irish Civil Birth Records began in 1864. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie

There were other Englishby births in Ardee in the years following 1864 including the one below, could this be Catherine.

Birth of CATHARINE ENGLISHBY in 1865
Group registration ID: 7750308
SR District/Reg Area: Ardee
Child's Sex: N/R
Mother's Birth Surname: N/R (incorrect)

Born 1st October 1865, father James a Farmer, mother Mary, formerly McDonnell.

Thomas & Jane Corbally also had children in the period 1864-1870

Colin

Thi is where I run into problems, I just can't find a fit. James and Mary had several children, including a Mary in 1860, but their daughter Catherine died in Brooklyn, New York in 1941 and Mary married a Peter Hickey and had children by him at the time Lawrence was born. Are you saying that Mary died in the workhouse? I wasn't aware of that.

Thomas and Jane's family seems to be a bit later with a daughter Margaret b.1876, so I think I can rule them out as well.

[ColC]

James Englishby died age 72 in 1879, death reported by Kate Englishby

Mary Englishby, widow of James a Farmer died age 83 in 1919, death reported by son Patrick.

Colin

[GDub71]

I note that a John Englishby (1854-1938) and his wife Anne Daly (1860-1933) had a son Laurence Englishby b.1889. They were in Meath. I'm not sure if the name Laurence was common or not then, I don't think so. A coincidence? Or maybe John is a brother to the 3 sisters?

[ColC]

"This is where I run into problems, I just can't find a fit. James and Mary had several children, including a Mary in 1860, but their daughter Catherine died in Brooklyn, New York in 1941 and Mary married a Peter Hickey and had children by him at the time Lawrence was born. Are you saying that Mary died in the workhouse? I wasn't aware of that".
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The 1911 census seems to confuse things a little>
 
1911 Census: 28 John St. Ardee
Englishby Catherine 66 (Older than the death record the following year)
McCay Larance 21Nephew

1911 Census: 31 John St. Ardee
Englishby Margaret 80 Boarder (I thought she died in 1910)?

Mary, widow of James is in Meath in 1911, her son Patrick and his family are present.

Colin

[GDub71]

"This is where I run into problems, I just can't find a fit. James and Mary had several children, including a Mary in 1860, but their daughter Catherine died in Brooklyn, New York in 1941 and Mary married a Peter Hickey and had children by him at the time Lawrence was born. Are you saying that Mary died in the workhouse? I wasn't aware of that".

The 1911 census seems to confuse things a little>
 
1911 Census: 28 John St. Ardee
Englishby Catherine 66 (Older than the death record the following year)
McCay Larance 21Nephew

1911 Census: 31 John St. Ardee
Englishby Margaret 80 Boarder (I thought she died in 1910)?

Mary, widow of James is in Meath in 1911, her son Patrick and his family are present.

Colin
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If there's a Margaret Englishby living there aged 80 in 1911, she could be their mother maybe? She'd certainly be old enough.

[GDub71]

This is probably her:

Name   Margaret Englishby
Event Type   Death
Event Date   Oct - Dec 1912
Event Place   Ardee, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year   Oct - Dec 1912
Registration District   Ardee
Age   90
Birth Year (Estimated)   1822
Volume Number   2

Seems like she aged 9 years in 1