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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 June 25 10:11 BST (UK) »
Joseph PARKER and Mary Elizabeth (WILLIAMS) are unmarried in the 1861 census,

In 1861 Mary Elizabeth Williams is married, only Joseph is unmarried. So John Williams is still somewhere around.

My apologies, I meant that they were not married to each other.

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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 12:23 »
Hi
Sorry I know it's a bit late to put more my ore in but John Williams was a publican.
He father Henry ,mother Ann and the rest of the family are running a Pub in Ruiton in 1851.
He is a publican oh son Henry's baptism 1856 so my guess he carried on in the trade.
There is a John Williams born c 1830 with his 'wife' Martha at the Fighting Cocks Sedgley who would fit the bill.He's there 1871 and 1881 censuses.
He died 1829 - Mar 1884.

Worth checking out . Just a thought

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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 12:57 »
Looking at Edward Ratcliffe (relative) who is with John Williams and Martha in 1871, I think he may be the one who married Catherine Jones in 1817. The family is on the 1841 census with one of the (presumed) children being Martha b abt 1829.
Piece number 999, Book number 12, folio number 8, Page number 8
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 13:02 »
There's a marriage between a John Williams and Martha Ratcliffe in Wolverhampton district in 1853. Is it a different John Williams, or the same one who bigamously married Mary Smith in 1855, then went back to his legal wife?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 13:06 »
More detail of 1853 marriage on Ancestry. It was on 29 Jun 1853 at Wednesfield. but his father's name was John.
Now two John Williams - publicans
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Joseph Parker and Mary Elizabeth Smith Sedgley
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 13:10 »
In 1851 John and Martha are at the Fighting Cocks with two children, Jane and Naomi Catherine
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott