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Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 15:42 BST (UK) »
Hi, need help finding Hannah Fenney plus her parents before her marriage to John Waters 16th May 1864 Deptford, Durham (this is in Sunderland) info found on select marriages, Father shown as James Fenney.   
Census 1871 in Pallion, Sunderland shows her born Durham with husband John Waters and 4 children: John James, Robert R, Richard G & Margaret F but I cannot find her before this marriage date with parent JAMES.  I'm supposing the name Fenney could be mis-transcribed earlier ??  Any help appreciated, thank you!
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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 June 25 15:51 BST (UK) »
Birth registrations of children
WATERS, JOHN  JAMES     mmn TEANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 483

WATERS, ROBERT  ROBSON     mmn TEANEY 
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 438

WATERS, MARGARET  ELEANOR     mmn TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1868  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 488

WATERS, RICHARD  GEORGE     mmn TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 522

WATERS, SAMUEL       mmn TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 605

WATERS, MARY  ELIZABETH     mmn TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 643

WATERS, HANNAH       mmn TENNEY 
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 584

WATERS, THOMAS  WILLIAM     mmn TANNEY
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 577
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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 June 25 16:24 BST (UK) »
Hannah born abt 1839 in County Durham

Possibly this for 1861 census? A servant for the Thwaites family.

Old Elvet, St Oswald, Durham
Hannah Fearney, 20, born Durham, kitchen maid (transcribed as Teaney on Ancestry)
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 June 25 22:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your input, had a feeling this was going to have more questions than answers!  Mulberry-rose, think your finding on Census 1861 is quite feasible but which surname do I follow to find Hannah’s parentage, particularly since rosie99 findings of her maiden name on all her children differ somewhat  :) definitely a  ???

May I ask rosie99 wherever did you find that much information on those children? I was under the  impression maiden names weren’t published until 1911!
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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 June 25 23:24 BST (UK) »
It is quite a puzzle with all these different names!  ;D Do you know who the witnesses for the marriage were?

Maiden names are available on the search register on the GRO website used to order records  https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

These are a few other possible children

WATERS, ANN       TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 531

WATERS, ALBANY       TANNEY 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 592 (died 1884)

WATERS, EDWARD  NORMAN     TENNEY 
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 534

WATERS, ISABEL       TAMNEY 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 501
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 00:01 »
No, only found the marriage info on ancestry didn’t think it was going to be this complicated!  Fenney isn’t that common  ;D  ::)
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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 00:35 »
Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate?

What is father James occupation?

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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:49 »
*  What other information is on the marriage certificate, 1864?

*  What ages, occupations, address do you see?

*  What church do they marry in?

*  What names do you see for witnesses?

*  Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate.

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Re: Hannah Fenney born abt 1841
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 09:54 »
I don’t have any more information other than what I’ve posted unfortunately and the only marriage info is what I found on ancestry which is copied below showing date of marriage & fathers’ name thats all I have.  There seems to be only one church, St Andrew, in Deptford having checked so a strong possibility

How difficult could ‘Fenney’ be I thought  ::)   Getting the marriage certificate seems only way forward or in this case back!  But James Fenney & daughter Hannah don’t appear as far as I can see before her marriage

From marriages on Ancestry:
Name: Hannah Fenney,  Gender Female, Age 23 Birth Date 1841 Marriage Date 16 May 1864
Marriage Place Deptford, Durham, England   Father James Fenney Spouse John Waters
Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Essex, Suffolk, Northamptonshire, Scotland, NorthEast, Lancashire, Ireland Donegal/Antrim
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