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Verderer
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 11:41 BST (UK) »
According to online dictionaries a Verderer is somebody who was responsible for law and order in Royal Forests.  (The main offence must have been poaching.) It seems to be a separate area of law.
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Re: Verderer
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 June 25 11:48 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the word is connected to verdant —green, as in lush green pastures .Viktoria.

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Re: Verderer
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 June 25 11:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Viktoria

Looks like you are right

"The title Verderer comes from the Norman word ‘vert’ meaning green and referring to woodland"

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Re: Verderer
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 June 25 11:54 BST (UK) »
According to my "A Dictionary of old trades, titles and occupations"

Verderer - Originally a royal officer in charge of the King's forest.  Later a petty constable.
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Re: Verderer
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 June 25 12:13 BST (UK) »
a petty constable ? oh dear, sounds dangerous .
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Re: Verderer
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 June 25 12:19 BST (UK) »
Same source - "Petty constable.  A constable (i.e. not a High Constable).  High Constable - similar to a Chief Constable in modern times, though constable duties differed then.  (See also seneschal).

Seneschal(us)  A steward with jurisdiction over several manors.  He was often also sheriff and/or High Constable.
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Re: Verderer
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 20:47 BST (UK) »
Verderers were elected officials not appointed according to local newspaper notices.
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Re: Verderer
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 22:04 BST (UK) »
Wikipedia has a comprehensive account on the responsibilities of a Verderers

Or better still go to BBC iPlayer and watch this mornings Countryfile and See Adam Henson with a New Forest Verderer and learn about the management of Forest and  the animals .
 
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.
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