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Place in the Isle of Man
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 00:30 BST (UK) »
Hello

I am trying to decipher the place of death of Thomas Chistian. It begins with B and ends of Killoy it seems but I am not sure

 

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 June 25 02:40 BST (UK) »
There are a number of places named Ballakilley and similar "farm of the church" etc.
https://isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/gazateer/balla.htm

Which church is the burial record? - that may help to locate it.

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 June 25 02:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, thanks for the feedback.
Marown is the parish

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 June 25 03:05 BST (UK) »
There is this Ballakilley in Marown on this 1868 map. A possibility?
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102343407#zoom=6.9&lat=9921&lon=3857&layers=BT

Or this Ballaskelly
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102343398#zoom=6.0&lat=2895&lon=13378&layers=BT


What year and name of of the church do you have?

Modified to add:
You can see in the gazateer I linked, there are a number of possibilities in Marown.  :)


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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 June 25 03:15 BST (UK) »
No specific church and the year is 1742 IIRC

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 June 25 06:40 BST (UK) »
According to ManxNoteBook, https://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/gazateer/balla.htm:

Ballakelly in Marown is now "The Nab".

There isn't a Ballaskelly in Marown, but there is in Bride and Onchan.

Balla means farm or homestead, and there are 600 or so of them!
Ballakelly means "Kelly's Farm".
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 June 25 08:07 BST (UK) »
Could also be BallaKilley?
"The farm of, or near, the (parish) church". Now Ellerslie.
Bishop's Barony.

Looking at my copy of "The Place-Names of the Isle of Man", J.J. Kneen, 1970  reprint, I can't see any other likely names?


Just a note: Christian is a very common surname on the island!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 June 25 09:33 BST (UK) »
No specific church and the year is 1742 IIRC

The church would have been St Runius Church.
St Runius, Marown ("Old Marown Church") dates to the 12th century and was the parish church of Marown until 1853. Today it only holds services for special occasions.

Just found this:
Thomas Christian (1754–1828) was the second son of John Christian (1728–1779), Vicar of Marown for 26 years, from 1753 to 1779, and his wife Elizabeth. Thomas Christian's father is notable for having translated the Second Book of Kings from the Bible into the Manx language.

After his father's death in September 1779, Thomas Christian became Vicar of Marown, moving into the manse at Ballakilley and taking up the post of Vicar in 1780. He thus followed both his father, John, and grandfather, Thomas, in being Vicar of the Parish, a line which began with his grandfather's appointment in 1734.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_St_Runius,_Marown

Possible family?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Place in the Isle of Man
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 June 25 09:53 BST (UK) »
Ahh KGarrad has given the surname of Christian - this is correct rather than Chistian as given by OP.  :)