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Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hello, hopefully someone would be able to help me to decipher some text that i am struggling with. It is the Abode/Street Name On the 1871 Census for Newcastle, All Saints district. Page 25 of 39.

This is the earliest potential census record i can find for my GG Grandmother. Jane Canning born approx 1855 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire. Her mother is Maria Canning. Surname is spelt Canning from my Great Grandfather Reuben Louis McDonald's birth certificate. However there seems to be variations on this eg. Cannon. Any support with tracking the family down prior to 1880 would be greatly appreciated as i am still learning how to utilise sources properly.

The text i can partially read says " Travellers ___ " potentially. I have attached a small screenshot rather than the full census record to hopefully help.

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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 11:12 BST (UK) »
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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 11:17 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much! You made that seem so easy :)

Do you have any idea what ‘Travellers Entry’ could mean? Could that suggest they are not living in a building but perhaps a sort’ve encampment?

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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 11:32 BST (UK) »
Looking at the description of the enumeration district on page 1 I’d suggest it was some sort of small lane or court.
There are several mentions of it in old newspapers including one in 1878 describing it as containing tenement buildings.
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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 12:30 BST (UK) »
Shaun J has found some of this, but here goes:

The newspaper mention from 1864 quoted below matches well with the enumerator's route in the sense that there are various Pandon place names.

Unfortunately this area of Newcastle is poorly covered in maps at NLS, with a huge gap between the 6 inch map of 1858 and the revised town plan of 1894. By the time of the latter map the All Saints area had been redeveloped and many of these places were gone. For example, at FindMyPast address search, New Pandon Street disappears after 1871.

However, Pandon Bank still exists today. Here is a map view with the early 6 inch map overlaid on a modern street map. On the old map Pandon Bank is unlabelled but aligns with the large 'A' of the All Saints label.

That's as close as I have been able to get to Travellers' Entry

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.2&lat=54.97254&lon=-1.60495&layers=257&b=osm&o=100


20 August 1864: Newcastle Daily Chronicle
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LOT 24. All that BLOCK OF FREEHOLD PROPERTY, comprising a HOUSE in Pandon Bank, with two entrances, occupied by Thomas Kennon, Ann Sloan, and John Shepherd; a HOUSE in New Pandon Street occupied by Agnes Ferguson, John Riddle and others; and a number of tenement DWELLING HOUSES and a BAKEHOUSE, between the said houses in Pandon Bank and New Pandon Street, and forming the north side of the "Travellers' Entry in the respective occupations of Isabella Dixon, Joseph Main, John Travers, Terrence Timmins and others.
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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 12:43 BST (UK) »
In an article from the Newcastle Evening Chronicle linked below I found a map from ~1851 which had Pandon Bank and also New Pandon labelled. Here is a section of the map, Pandon Bank is just right of centre.


https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/gallery/see-selection-fabulous-old-maps-22027962

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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 12:57 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you have this?

Looks to me that Marriage Reg has been mistranscribed on FreeBMD


Marriages Sep 1856
Mayens  Maria  Caistor 7a   944   
Only two others on page, Joseph Howell and Elizabeth Ann Anderson

Marriages Sep 1856
Canning John  Caistor    7a 144

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Re: Help To Decipher Abode/Place Name On 1871 Newcastle All Saints Census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 13:09 BST (UK) »
I found a map of the area dating from 1876, possibly linked to the redevelopment of the area. The map is from the Newcastle Libraries Collection, but has no copyright. The full map is linked below and I am attaching a detail. Travellers Entry is labelled just to the west of the 'on' of Pandon Bank'.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/39821974@N06/26207818786/
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