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Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I have a 1709 marriage record from an Edinburgh church and would be grateful for any help in
clarifying some obscure points in the register entry

I can read most of the selected entry:

George Miller, Smith,  Inndweller in [????] parish and Elizabeth Brockie [or Brodie] daughter of the deceased [????] Brockie inndweller in [????] parish

The marriage was in Edinburgh but what did the abbreviations for the Bride and groom's respective parishes stand for?

Thanks for your help and best regards





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Re: Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 06:46 BST (UK) »
Could the parishes be connected to the S E cluster?

https://seecos.org.uk/
Patton Antrim, Stockton on Tees
Smith Elgin, Skye of Curr, Speyside
Cumming Speyside
McQueen Speyside
Gentleman Hawick
McPhee Lanarkshire

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Re: Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 06:49 BST (UK) »
Looking at Scotlands People the marriage was within the Parish of Edinburgh and some other marriages on the register page posted lists people from other surrounding parishes with the parish listed in full - South Leith and Leswade (Laswade).   So could the initials relate to a persons place of residence within the Parish of Edinburgh - eg SE South East  :-\

Added Old Edinburgh Parish Boundaries https://www.hoodfamily.info/misc/miscedinmaplarge.html  Edinburgh Newtown wasn't built in 1709

Added - My OH suggests that the initial E stands for the Edinburgh parish - no idea re the forgoing squiggles

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Re: Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 08:24 BST (UK) »
I wonder if its some sort of shorthand as the letters dont match any others in the letter for example E or G or C.  I thought maybe short for St Giles or something similar.  Maybe Scotlands people would know.
Ferguson (st fillans, comrie)
Garnock (lothian, fife)
Valet (london, switzerland)
Butcher (ramsgate, glasgow)
Blackbird (durham,  newcastle)
Barr (ayrshire, ireland)
Fleming (paisley)
Crone, croney ,(dumfriesshire, ireland)


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Re: Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 10:28 BST (UK) »
George Miller Smith Indueller (= indweller) in S/E paroch (= parish) &
Elizabeth Brockie Daughter to the deceast pa[tric]k
Brockie indueller in SE parish

At this time Edinburgh was divided into four parishes. The South East parishioners worshipped at the Tron Kirk.

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Re: Help in deciphering a 1709 Edinburgh marriage entry - abbreviations
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 June 25 11:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much for your help on this, the information about the Parishes gives me a very useful link (clue) for the family line I am researching.

Thanks again and best regards