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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 June 25 12:36 BST (UK) »
I am so happy that I helped you.

I would say they had a close relationship given that Ann Mayor has her grandchildren from Charles Allens marriage to Ann Mayor with her 1841 Census.

God luck with it all and you seem to have excellent research skills.

Keep us updated.

Trish :)
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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 June 25 23:03 BST (UK) »
trish 1120

The items below are your comments followed by my responses after visiting the County Records Office today:

1. Marriage;
JOHN MAYOR to Ann SCOTT 29 Jan 1800

At the time of their wedding John was a lead miner in the Castleside/Healeyfield area.  He died in 1819 probably related to his work as a lead miner.  This marriage was at Muggleswick which is very close to where she lived and also to Waskerley at the head of the Incline

2.  ANN Mayor married Charles ALLEN 03 Mar 1834

This Ann Mayor is probably the daughter of John Mayor and Ann (Nanny) Mayor nee Scott.  She was born in 1812.  Charles Allen made his fortune by contract work making cuttings and embankments on the Stanhope and Tyne Railway and then used it to build a pub and brewery in Annfield Plain which may well have supplied Nanny Mayor with beer which could easily be shipped to her on the direct link rail line Charles Allen’s first mother-in-law.  Ann Mayor died in September1838 aged 26 and was buried in Lanchester on 26th September 1828.  This is where people living in Annfield Plain would normally be buried.

3.  Charles Allen widower remarried 3 April 1839 Durham (f/S.Org)
Bond has him of Anfield Plain

Charles Allen married Frances Jane Allen b c1812 of Ford, Northumberland and this marriage lasted for the rest of his life

4.  FreeREG has a  Ann Allan buried 26 Sep 1838 Lancaster age 26, abode Annfield Plain

I think Lancaster is actually Lanchester which is where someone living in Annfield Plain would normally be buried at that time.

5.  Bapts Lancaster to Charles/Ann
William 18 Apr 1837
Ann    21 Jun 1838 buried 26 Oct 1838 age 4 mths
Father a Innkeeper

He was not only an innkeeper but also a brewer, spirit merchant, farmer and owner of a number of public houses in the area.  He was a man of substance and highly respected locally.

6.  Charles and new wife bapt another Ann 8 Jan 1840

I think this shows he had love and respect for his first wife and her family.  As an up and coming businessman, he could not look after young children so I believe he financially supported them whilst they were in the care of his mother-in-law

7.  Interesting as Daug Ann 1840 is not with Charles/Frances in 1841 but with his 1st Wifes Mother.
They must have had a close relationship. Son of Charles/Ann, William is there also.

I can only agree with you on that point

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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 09:51 BST (UK) »
In point no 2, read wife not mother-in-law.  It was the younger Ann Mayor who died young

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 09:57 BST (UK) »
Looks all perfect to me :)

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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 12:53 BST (UK) »
It will never cease to amaze me that I live just 10 or 12 miles away from Nanny Mayor's Incline and my big breakthrough in this story comes from thousands of miles away - in Sydney, Australia!  Thanks again, Trish.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 June 25 13:59 BST (UK) »
 ;D :)
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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 01:02 »
Trish,

The two Scott burials you listed have proved to be Ann Mayor's parents.  I thought she came from a background of a relatively well to do farming family, but she has proved to be the daughter of a simple farm labourer.  I have also found that she was baptised as Ann Scot [note spelling] but all other details are the same.  This is easily understandable as standardisation of spelling in England did not even start until she was 60 years old!

So, in every detail, the information you gave me checks out.  But, more to the point, it fits in perfectly with my own research and I have learned a great deal in the last three days because your information told me exactly where to look.

The village of Waskerley (at the top of Nanny Mayor's Incline) has been virtually wiped out and was largely demolished in the 1950s.  It was once the highest railway depot in the world - and had several hundred inhabitants.  Now its population and buildings can be measured in single figures.  Gradually nature is taking it back but there is no longer any reason for its existence other than The Waskerley Way which is now a classic hiking path

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« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 12:12 »
Excellent another generation found and confirmed.

Yes it is sad how areas change and then become much smaller.

At least the hiking path is still used.

On FreeREG the name Scot/t only goes back 1768.
They may have not transcribed records further back.

Burial of;
MARY Scot 7 Jun 1768
Bapts of;
ANN Scot you have found + WILLIAM Scot 17 Jan 1773
All have Parents as WILLLIAM/ANN

I did some googling and Durham Records Online has 789 Marriages at the Church 1754-1812

Trish :)
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Re: Ann Mayor 1775-1860
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 15:35 »
Thank you Trish,

The actual Records Office at Durham is known as The Story and is a wonderful resource.  It has recently been moved to a brand new site which is well equipped and has staff who are pleasant, knowledgeable and very helpful.  I go there most weeks as it is only a 20 minute drive from where I live and I can use their on line resource from home.

My interest in the Scot/Scott family does not go any further back in time since I have discovered that Ann Mayor was the first of the family to be involved in the brewing/publican business.  I have known about her for over thirty years but she played only a minor part in my investigations until you mentioned her connection with Charles Allen which immediately grabbed my attention!

Now, she is linked more closely as one of the pubs possibly using Charles Allen's brewery as a source of supply.  That is a network that greatly interests me because there is a mesh of pubs that he owned, pubs that he supplied and pubs that he acted as agent for.  I need to unravel that mesh to understand his rise in fortunes from a single pub to an estate that would be valued at around seven and a half million pounds at today's prices and all in the space of 30 years and in a relatively
low population area where the vast majority of men were on low levels of pay.