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Offline Darnity

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SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 16:42 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Shelert, father's name Cecil, marries Oliver Lee Dec Q1876 Gateshead RD.

I can't find Cecil nor anyone else with the surname Shelert - anyone any thoughts on what it could be a mishearing of?

I thought maybe Shelter but that's not finding Cecil or Elizabeth for me.

It kind of sounds like Shallot (as in those small onions or the Lady of Shallot) but that's not finding me lots of people with the surname either.

Gypsy DRAPERs, children of Billy and Mary - Ellen,Darnity,Spencer,Billy Jnr,Kisby,Ellick
Descendants of Fred and Esther (Garrett) WHITLOCK - Wavendon, Woburn Sands area
Descendants of George and Barbara (Willis) SUTTON - Earls Barton and Nether Heyford
BISSELL - Hanslope, New Bradwell, Bucks and Aston, Birmingham area
Lavinia DRAPER died 1840 Cranfield
Gypsies in the Bow Brickhill and Beds/Bucks border areas

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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:28 BST (UK) »
Do you have the marriage certificate ?

That would give, ages for the bride and groom, occupations for them (if any) and those of their fathers
Witnesses could also give clues. If the Bride could write her name that may be clearer than the. usually already filled in, entry by the minister/parish clerk ready for the signatures.

Do you have them in Census returns after the marriage? 
That could supply you with birthplaces which may produce a clue.

Did they have children that you know of? What does the GRO say about their MMN?

All questions rather than an answer for you but exploring the above  may lead somewhere.

Boo



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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:29 BST (UK) »
In case it helps, in censuses she gives her birthplace as Lincoln, and in 1891 she specifies Kirton.
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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:43 BST (UK) »
Baptised 12th April 1893, Southwick, Durham. Parents Oliver & Elizabeth


LEE, LEMENTINA       mmn CHARLOTTE 
GRO Reference: 1893  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 723


Lots of baptisms on FindMyPast for Oliver & elizabeth Lee but hard to find birth registrations.

Just adding this --nor sure quite why

LEE, STORY       OLIVER 
GRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 527

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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi
There are a lot of family tree entries for Oliver Lee at Ancestry.
His wife Elizabeth and her linked family have an array of surname variations:
Sherlot
Charlot/te
Sharlott
Shelert
and the list goes on.
Hard work ahead!
Rebel

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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:54 BST (UK) »
There's a family living in a "gypsy camp" in 1891 at Church Fenton Yks, which I am drawn to


Father is Cistance Sharlott 66 born Burford Oxfordshire, a besom maker & tinware dealer, wife Lemontina and they have a son William born Kirton
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland

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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 June 25 18:00 BST (UK) »
Public tree for Elizabeth daughter of Cystance or Sistance Charlotte

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/74359454/person/362325401332/facts
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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 June 25 18:16 BST (UK) »
A Lemontina Lee married an Edgar Sharlott Q1 1914 Halifax.

Some of the Lee children births were registered in Halifax (e.g. Alexander bapt as Alick)
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Re: SHELERT surname - a mishearing?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 June 25 18:57 BST (UK) »
Limontina’s husband?

Edgar Sharlott bapt 13 July 1893, Royston St John (West Riding)
father Aaron Sharlott, miner
mother Lavinia Sharlott
no fixed residence

[One of the children of Oliver and Elizabeth Lee was named Aaron.]
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