Did this couple marry?

[enzfan]

Hi

This is a continuation of a thread I posted with regards to a baptism.
 
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=891993.0


Henry Bailey Thompson's birth was registered in Sunderland so I'm wondering if the parents married there. It's all very complicated.

The couple are Henry Bailey and his wife Ann nee Cornwall. They emigrated to NZ in 1860 with two children. Ann was married, as a minor, to a Joseph Hood/Wood prior to meeting Henry. I know nothing about Henry BUT interestingly on their first child's birth he is named as Henry Thompson so did he change his name from Thompson to Bailey? Ann was originally from Manchester and Henry was apparently originally from Nottingham and was born around 1823. The shipping record shows that the Bailey family was from Durham

I desperately need a marriage record to find out who Henry's father was. His NZ death record does not include parents.

A bit tricky to unpick, I know!

[CaroleW]

Have you checked freebmd for a marriage?  www.freebmd.org.uk

Are you certain you are looking for Henry Bailey THOMPSON as your previous post was Henry Bailey?

If his surname was THOMPSON  - why are parents Henry Bailey & Ann Cornwell?

[CaroleW]

There is a Thompson/Cornwell marriage in Sunderland but it was 1838 - the birth was 1857.

Edward Thompson/Eleanor Cornwell

THOMPSON, HENRY  BAILEY      mmn CORNWELL     
GRO Reference: 1857  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 372

I desperately need a marriage record to find out who Henry's father was. His NZ death record does not include parents.

Did he marry in NZ?  what name did he marry as - Bailey or Thompson?

Any info from his marriage cert re fathers name?

[Spelk]

Marriage q1 1840 Tynemouth 25 397 - Henry Bailey THOMPSON and Caroline Ann Ritchie HALL or Agnes HENGHAN or Elizabeth JEWELS or Ann JOHNSTONE.
There are six more marriages of  men called Henry Bailey SURNAMES up to 1860. EDIT - there are eleven such marriages if you do not specify that the wife was called Ann.

[softly softly]

Info only.

Ann Cornwall married 23rd December 1844 in Manchester, she a "minor", father Robert Cornwall.
Joseph Wood a "widower", occupation PLANE MAKER, father Thomas Wood.

1851 census..ref 2405 77 74

Joseph   Hood   Head   Married   Male   38   1813   Plane maker   Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ann   Hood   Wife   Married   Female   23   1828   -   Manchester, Lancashire, England

(age in 1851 = birth c 1828--making her a minor aged 16 at marriage in 1844.)

1851 census ref 2397 552 43

Henry Bailey 28 Plane Maker, Retford, Notts
Ann  Bailey 31 Whitburn, Durham

(age 31 in 1851 = c1820-- making her aged at least 23/24 so not "minor" in 1844.



SS

[enzfan]

On Henry Bailey Thompson's birth record his parents are recorded as Henry Thompson and Ann Thompson, formerly Cornwell.

Henry Bailey Thompson was born in Bishopwearmouth.

By 1859, at the time of their second child's birth the family name was Bailey. When the family left England for NZ in 1860 they travelled under the family name of Bailey.

Perhaps Ann married a second time, making her marriage to Henry the third. According to info in NZ Henry and Ann married in 1856. It is likely that Ann was Catholic.

[softly softly]

I appreciate all your research enzfan, what I find awkward is Ann possibly appearing in 1851 on 2 census.

SS

[heywood]

1851 census ref 2397 552 43

Henry Bailey 28 Plane Maker, Retford, Notts
Ann  Bailey 31 Whitburn, Durham

(age 31 in 1851 = c1820-- making her aged at least 23/24 so not "minor" in 1844.

SS

There is also the possibility of the 1851 marriage
Henry Bailey and Ann Preston Jackson mentioned in the previous thread.
That marriage might be worth checking.
It could be that both parties were married and unable to marry.

Have you checked a NZ marriage perhaps?

[enzfan]

Yes I did check - No NZ marriage