Starting out

[Dave70]

Taking a DNA yourself is the only way that you can be sure of your Parentage.

As you have an idea of who your Father was then a logical way forward would be to trace his lineage and try to identify if you have a half sibling or half siblings, as I stated in my last post, this has worked for me.

If you find any half siblings do approach them and eventually ask if they would be willing to take a DNA test.  If successful they are likely to share about 1800 cM with you.

If you cannot find any offspring of his or if they refuse to take a DNA test then look at his siblings and their children, or cousins of his who share the same Grandfather as you are likely to share.

Build a separate tree for your likely Father.

Birth Certificates can be falsified, my own has a Father listed but he was not my Biological Father.

I am having problems even finding him on ancestory.com The Names I have are Stewart Fry (possibly Stuart) and his father was called William (Bill) Fry. But I am unable to find a combination of them two people at all.

[cockney rebel]

Hi
If you know that the pub is no longer standing, do you perhaps know the name of the pub and/or its address or whatever district it was in Leeds ?
Rebel

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

There's no father named on my birth certificate, both my parents and one grandparent have fathers listed on their certs but none are the biological father. I only know because of DNA. I don't follow surnames from paperwork, rumours or other trees.
I use dna and some traditional tree building techniques to identify target testers, to pick out the full and half relatives and prove whether paperwork is useful or useless.

[Dave70]

Hi
If you know that the pub is no longer standing, do you perhaps know the name of the pub and/or its address or whatever district it was in Leeds ?
Rebel

Yeah its this one:- https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/yorkshire/leeds_ls2_yorkshirehussar.html

Originally it was called the Yorkshire Hussar, then the Tam O'Shanter and Finally Hoagys Bar before it closed in 2001?

[Dave70]

There's no father named on my birth certificate, both my parents and one grandparent have fathers listed on their certs but none are the biological father. I only know because of DNA. I don't follow surnames from paperwork, rumours or other trees.
I use dna and some traditional tree building techniques to identify target testers, to pick out the full and half relatives and prove whether paperwork is useful or useless.

Thats encouraging to know it could be possible then, Im a complete novice when it comes to tree building though, so its all a learning curve ;p

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

If the results on day one are inconclusive that isn't to say it will always be that way as thousands of tests are taken everyday and an important/significant match can appear at any time. It's often a case of being patient and trying to find who is a good candidate for a target test but time will tell. We all start as novices so you're not alone in that regard, for me personally knowing how to build a tree and analyse my results is important as I like to do as much as I can myself though again it takes time to learn the ins and outs of family history.

[Biggles50]

Read this.

https://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/PDF-Dowloads/ancestors.pdf

Any Publican has to be Licensed and there should be records in the County Archives, where they may or may not be digitised and available online.

Archives in Yorkshire are split up in different locations and West Yorkshire Archive Services hold the records for Leeds.  Do be advised the websites of many Archives are very difficult to navigate and can return zero results when they are actually records existing.

Alas the only way may be a personal visit or if that is not possible a paid for search.

I have just looked up Stuart Fry on Newspapers in Find My Past and nothing, there is the British Newspaper Archive that may have online records for the Fry’s but I do not subscribe to it.

[Spelk]

Do not just focus on your dad’s side. You need to trace your mother’s family and identify as many cousins, second and third cousins as you can.
Thus when you get DNA matches in Ancstry, MyHeritage etc you can identify those who are on you mothers side. Those who are not on your mams side may be on your dad’s.
DNA solved one unknown for me and threw up an unknown relative who had been adopted.

[LizzieL]

The brewery might have something in their archives
This link says it was once a Samuel Webster pub, but haven't verified it

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomackroyd/4692922753

Seems to have slimmed down somewhat from the picture on the closed pubs site!