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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #108 on: Monday 07 July 25 11:40 BST (UK) »
Oh that's all interesting, I'll have a good look shortly.  Well done though, it looks like another problem solved. I wonder if William was still her employer at that point?  Bordesley is right in the heart of Birmingham itself (last report) and she was stealing household goods as well as personal items.  Perhaps living alone by then?

What I CAN report is that I have a copy of the death certificate for the William I'Anson who died in December 1930.  But it's not our man.  This one was in fact William Anson and he lived in Sculcoates, which is part of Hull. Also in Yorkshire in 1930 but as a whole Yorkshire (which was divided into four "ridings" at one point but is now known as West, South and North Yorkshire with Hull moving into a new county of Humberside) is the largest county in the UK and it's probably well over 70 miles from where our William I'Anson was born.  I live in North Yorkshire and it's one of the bleaker and more remote counties in the north of England (think Bronte sisters...) so I don't see a lot of movement going on at that time.  William Anson's death was reported by his sister, Mary Elizabeth Richardson.  He was a labourer.  I can see Elizabeth's marriage and her surname was definitely Anson.  I think his death has been tied up with William I'Anson for some time so I'm pleased to put that one to bed.

Now back to Rosina Zeamond...

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #109 on: Monday 07 July 25 12:09 BST (UK) »
So Rosina was apprehended for that last bit of shop-lifting in London despite still giving a Birmingham address.  I wonder if she ever got out of the institution she was sent to?  If so, she might be the Rosina Seaman Steventon show in the Worcester Electoral Register for 1938/39?

Although there is a Rose Steventon (with a different year of birth) shown as an inmate of Tooting Bec Hospital (a mental institution) in the 1939 Register.  Could be her?  Tooting is pretty close to Fulham... It appears that Rose died in 1949 aged 82 if you take 1868 as her year of birth, 66 if we use 1883. Registered in Wandsworth - which is the recording district for Tooting.

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #110 on: Monday 07 July 25 14:25 BST (UK) »
How exciting  ;D

I'm glad you have ruled out William Anson, I wonder why he is listed as I'Anson on FindMyPast...

Rosina, what a piece of work.  ;D

Thanks Lucy!

I thought she could be this one and the STEVENTON surname could have been added as an alias borrowed from someone else (mother maiden name, partner). She would have to be lying about her place of birth though.

Births Mar 1883   (>99%)
SEAMAN    Rosina Annie        Bethnal Green    1c   241

(Added: married Charles FARMER)

I can't find the entry on GRO though.

There is this christening record that rings a bell because it's one of a kind, obviously the surname has been misspelled.

Rose Simonond
Vital • England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Rose Simonond person details
Name   Rose Simonond
Sex   Female
Birth Date   22 Dec 1883
Father's Name   John Simonond
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Esther
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   13 Jan 1884
Event Place   Deptford, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   St Paul, Deptford, Kent, England



London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1972

John Siminonds
Residence   
1901 Deptford, England

IF this is the right family, this is her birth register: (mother Esther nee WREN)

SIMMONDS, ROSE       WREN 
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1100


1891 Census in St Paul, Deptford, with father John, mother Esther, siblings Ellen, Elizabeth, John William. She was Fanny...


Possible death:

   SIMMONDS, ROSE       73 
GRO Reference: 1957  M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 09B  Page 793

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #111 on: Monday 07 July 25 20:36 BST (UK) »
Oh that one is interesting. I’m out and can’t access the 1939 Register. Is she there?  West Bromwich is very close to Walsall…


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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #112 on: Monday 07 July 25 21:59 BST (UK) »
I can't see the records but from what I can see in the preview, there are 2 possibilites, one in London and the other in Essex.

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #113 on: Tuesday 08 July 25 01:46 BST (UK) »

Possible death:

   SIMMONDS, ROSE       73 
GRO Reference: 1957  M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 09B  Page 793

^  Above was a Mrs Rose SIMMONDS - died c. 31 January 1957 at W. Bromwich Dist. Hospital after falling from a bedroom window at home.  Lived at 73 Church Street, Oldbury :
  Source -  "Birmingham Daily Post" - 1 Feb 1957

1921 and 1939  - with husband Arthur at 15 Church Street, Oldbury - both born Worcestershire-Oldbury -- she born 22 June 1883 :

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 08 July 25 01:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Lu. The search continues.

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 08 July 25 09:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I’m wondering, should we be looking under Simmonds or Steventon?

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 08 July 25 13:34 BST (UK) »
I can't see any Rose or Rosina Steventon in the right age bracket on FreeBMD. And the spelling of her birth name could be anything from SIMMS to SYMMONDS and who knows what else.