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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #72 on: Friday 04 July 25 00:41 BST (UK) »
Your reply gives me some hope  ;D I have looked for all John Wilsons on Sands and McDougall's directory from 1905 to 1925 and crossed that information with ads available on Trove for the same period of time, and one interesting thing came up. My English is not good enough to explain it though. It's a bit late here, so tomorrow I'll try to write down my thoughts as best as I can. One thing that helped is that most John Wilsons had a second forename, I bet Isaiah didn't think that would actually make it easier to track him down.

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« Reply #73 on: Friday 04 July 25 00:46 BST (UK) »
I wish I had something to offer in this interesting search,


One of the disadvantages I have is not fully understanding what regular registers and records might be out there for Victoria - my main knowledge is what we might expect in the UK…

Victoria has a wealth of records and resources and many of them are listed at the top of the Australian Board.
Some require Ancestry sub, but many do not.

Have a look.

Possibly those more familiar with the collections could help too.
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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #74 on: Friday 04 July 25 00:53 BST (UK) »
I think my only option might be to apply for a copy of the Death Cert. It’s a loose end that needs clearing up. I've applied - let's see in four days time!

Yes he was still in the Midlands in 1921.  His “housekeeper” in 1911 and 1921 has never been traced either. It clearly states Rosina Zeamond on the census forms but I can find no trace of her.

I wonder if this Edward Zammond was Rosina's relative? It looks like they had big trouble understanding their surname because he's nowhere to be found either!


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« Reply #75 on: Friday 04 July 25 06:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your input into this. I DO have an Ancestry.co.uk subscription so I’ll see what might be in there.

The other thing I have is a copy of Isaiah’s signature. It’s distinctive so may be useful for comparisons somewhere along the line.

And in a saga of many fake names I suppose Rosina Zeamond might be just one more. Let’s see if this death certificate will give me any clues about where she and William I’Anson went after 1921…


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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #76 on: Friday 04 July 25 17:48 BST (UK) »
Regarding John Wilson in Melbourne, Victoria.

After tracking down most John Wilsons on Sands&Mac Directory from 1905 to 1925, a particular one appeared at 465 Church street, Richmond, in the 1915 edition.

Unfortunately the editions have a 5 year gap between them.

This John Wilson was a coach builder. At the same address (465-467 Church st, Richmond) in 1905 and 1910 was J. W. George, or Johnney William George, a coach and lorry builder, blacksmith, and Councillor for Richmond Central Ward.

Apparently, J. W. George moved to larger premises in Church Street (549-551) 'now deep in Motor Trade', and leased the 465 address to John Wilson. At 467 Church Street there was another coach builder named Frank Andrewartha.

John Wilson advertised from 13 Feb 1913 to 27 April 1918, after that the address was in the name of another coach builder, Eli W. Day.

There are many references to J. W. George on Trove, his trade and political career reminded me of Isaiah.

Could this John Wilson be him? Hard to tell but the coincidence is interesting.

P.S. There were other 2 John Wilsons, coachbuilders, with addresses in Seville (31 mi) and Wedderburn (140 mi) from Melbourne, I haven't been able to track their stories yet. Councillor J. W. George went on 'a tour to England and other European countries, as well as the United States of America' in 1925.

P.P.S. Another interesting coincidence... Next door, at 464 Church Street, Richmond, there was a John Wilson, confectioner (1920, 1925), another possible source of inspiration for his fake name?

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« Reply #77 on: Friday 04 July 25 20:25 BST (UK) »
Could be!  I’m assuming he went to Melbourne as John Vernon, and John Wilson came later. According to British reports he was looking into being involved in the motor trade before he left the UK too.

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Re: More on Hiding in Tasmania
« Reply #78 on: Friday 04 July 25 20:27 BST (UK) »
Shipping records from Tasmania would be good. It would be a very narrow window too, mid to late Spring 1910

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« Reply #79 on: Friday 04 July 25 23:28 BST (UK) »
Whatever he did, I don’t think he made much money from it. When he died in 1922 his estate was £160 gross.

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« Reply #80 on: Friday 04 July 25 23:30 BST (UK) »
What about Christiana? Did she leave a will?