Thomas Walmsley 27/12/1755 - 22/3/1839

[lancsann]

And when did he marry and what was his occupation then

Also where were his widow and possibly children living in the 1841 census

[hanes teulu]

Preston Chronicle, 23 Mar 1839

[lancsann]

Also noted in The Blackburn Standard on 30/3/1839

Age 75 & highly respected by numerous friends

This makes him sound to be a well known man in the area and probably fairly wealthy to have an obituary in 2 newspapers but still does not match the birth date you have by 10 years. Ages on death are often a few years out but not usually as much as 10

Do you have his death certificate to see who registered his death?

[trevorwnz]

Alice Walmsley registered his death - she is not his daughter and I have not checked yet to see if she is married to one of his sons. I need to do more researching lots of questions to follow up. I may have the wrong wife and therefore wrong children for example

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast has details of probate and how a copy of the will can be obtained. The executor looks like "R'd Walmsley"?
Document ordering    http://www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/remote-services/copying/order-form/

FindMyPast does not hold details of the will and there's no guarantee the will includes names eg "I leave to my wife ...".

NOTE - this is to advise you what's available. It does not direct you to using FindMyPast.

[lancsann]

Presumably you have confirmation of all your ancestors after civil registration in 1839. Would it be worth going back to that level and reconfirming parentage?

[hanes teulu]

There are two marriages 1780 of a Thomas Walmsley, occpn "joiner" - one at St. Peter, Liverpool (8 Dec 1780), the other at St Leonard, Walton Le Dale (8 Aug 1780). Indeed a Thomas Walmsley "weaver" married  1779 at Walton Le Dale.
Is the 1780 St Peter, L'Pool marriage the one you refer to in your opening post?

These marriages close together really muddy the waters. 

[trish1120]

They do muddy the waters;

Burials;
St Anne Richmond, Liverpool

31 Dec 1805 DANIEL Walmsley son of Thomas/Elizabeth age 16 (c 1789)

12 Apr 1806 BETTY Walmsley, daug of Thomas/Elizabeth, age 21 (c 1785)

05 Dec 1803 THOMAS Walmsley age 59 (c 1744)

So possibly more than 1 Thomas around married to a Elizabeth if thats the couple you are interested in?

A Tree has Thomas dying 1839/born 1760 and Elizabeth 1765-1835
The burial for Elizabeth quoted Walton le Dale is age 65 (1770) so too young to marry 1780!

As said earlier you may have to go back to basics with what is known and confirmed.

[lancsann]

There is another Thomas Elizabeth marriage in 1787 at Walton-le-dale. I know Thomas would have been quite old for a first marriage but there could have been a previous one

Eg marriage to a Margaret (known perhaps as Peggy) with a death of a Peggy wife of Thomas in 1781 (there are a couple of others)

Does the death certificate you have not give the relationship to the deceased as they often do?