DAVIS OF POLAND/LONDON

[TreeSpirit]

The major issue is that Jewish (sur)names were - for various reasons - often not a constant. Therefore I’ve played a bit with various versions of the couple’s surnames. The following is probably totally circumstantial, but it might still be food for thought …


In the April 1891 Census Abraham and Kate are already married and residing in 181 Wardour St, St James Westminster, London, England
The April 1911 census mentions that the couple has been married for 20 years, so their marriage would have taken place ca 1890/1, but did they marry in England or Poland?

In the first quarter of 1891 a Gitla SZTOKLAND marries in district Mile End. Could this be Kate?
Unfortunately there are 2 possible grooms: Morris ELLIN and Abram SZLADOWER (it is a guess without the MC)

The surname SZLADOWER seems to appear to the north west of Warsawa in places like Plock and Plonsk. And, in 1867 a Abram Dawid SLADOWER  is born in PLONSK as the son of Lewek (a manufacturer) and Rojzy: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSC1-SW6V?i=86 (#167). Just a coincidence or could he have been the same person as the 1891 groom?

[amondg]

I would get the marriage certificate, it will give you the address of where they were living at the time

and the names of the fathers. Witnesses names can also be helpful.

Entire families left together, you may find other relatives.

Sztokland  is very like Stockland.

[seeds ltd]

Great info, will work on it all, thanks for help

[fiddlerslass]

It is possible that Stockland is an anglicised version of the surname Sztokband. For example here is a marriage in 1891 Warsaw of Kajla Gitla Sztokband, before the slash you can see how it looks in Cyrillic. Entry no 7


https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/12482318?_Jednostka_delta=20&_Jednostka_resetCur=false&_Jednostka_cur=3&_Jednostka_id_jednostki=12482318


Also here is a useful guide to polish Jewish first names

https://bloodandfrogs.com/2020/03/female-jewish-names-in-poland-from-1866.html

[fiddlerslass]

I see the link doesn't take you straight to the right place. You need scan number 54, sorry.

[fiddlerslass]

1911 census Morris Ellen married 20 years with wife Miriam living in Mile End. I think the marriage certificate TreeSpirit suggested is the place to start. Witnesses names can be helpful also.

[seeds ltd]

Now looking for Benjamin Davis b 1897/98 London m1922, from a tree it said he died in France in January 1987 but i can find no trace

[fiddlerslass]

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/263860374/ben-davis

Civil Records for Monaco see contact on this page

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Monaco_Civil_Registration

Other records may come under the department 06 In France,
Alpes- Maritimes

[seeds ltd]

Many thanks Fiddlerslass for the great info