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Lodger
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Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 18:55 BST (UK) »
Hello Longford,
I could use some help locating the townland on this marriage certificate from 1870.
It looks like Clanmore but, when I check it against the list of county Longford's townlands' it doesn't appear. (I am using
www.townlands.ie
).
This marriage took place at St Mel's in Longford town (or is it a city?). Would the corresponding parish be "Ardagh & Moydow"? (I am using registers.nli.ie/parishes).
Any help would be appreciated.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire.
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire.
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.
athacliath62
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 18:59 BST (UK) »
The Catholic Parish for Longford town is Templemichael, the parish also includes the civil parish of Ballymacormick :
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0146
athacliath62
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 19:03 BST (UK) »
Marriages generally took place in the bride's parish, i.e. Templemichael/Longford town in this case, the groom could have lived outside the parish.
Can you give further details on this civil record.. date and names of the couple or include a link
athacliath62
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 19:08 BST (UK) »
The corresponding parish record in the Catholic register for the parish is very faded , groom's residence looks like it might be Clonamore ? same for his father
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632376#page/10/mode/1up
athacliath62
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 19:12 BST (UK) »
There's a townland named Cloonmore not far (about 6km) to the south west of Longford town :
https://www.logainm.ie/en/33250
See the Placename database entry for some of the spelling variations for this placename.
Kiltaglassan
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 20:01 BST (UK) »
Griffiths Valuation 1854 - Cloonmore
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2446973#map=12/53.7054/-7.8868
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo
Lodger
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Re: Location of townland
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Tuesday 10 June 25 21:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you both so much Kiltaglassan and athacliath62, you have been most helpful.
The Peter Gray who was the witness at this marriage came to Scotland soon afterwards and there married the sister of the groom (Thomas Murphy) so they must have had a close connection in Longford. I can't find any Gray's in these Longford records and Murphy's are few and far between!
I know from their Scottish marriage and death certificates that the parents of Peter Gray were Peter Gray and Bridget Rawl (Raul? Rhawl?) and the parents of Thomas Murphy were James Murphy and Catherine Owens.
Thanks again for you help guys.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire.
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire.
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.
rathmore
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Re: Location of townland
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Wednesday 11 June 25 12:58 BST (UK) »
have you looked on church/civil records
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
i don't know if they are related to you.
228 Gray Births in Longford
125 Gray marriages Longford
gaffy
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Re: Location of townland
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Wednesday 11 June 25 19:22 BST (UK) »
(1) Killashee RC Parish register, 1839:
Nov 27th B. Thos. f James Murphy & Cath Owens
S Mich Murphy & Mary Owens
27th November Baptised Thomas son of James Murphy and Catherine Owens
Sponsors Michael Murphy and Mary Owens
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632437#page/49/mode/1up
(left page, third entry up from bottom)
(2) Clongish RC Parish register, 1834:
(In English) 7th (November) James Murphy and Catharine Owens of Kilmore
Patrick McGiffe and Margaret McNally (Sponsors)
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632396#page/113/mode/1up
(bottom of right page)
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