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Yorkshire place name - help please
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 10:48 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

I am researching my Rhodes family in Yorkshire.
I'm trying to decipher the name of where they lived from the census of 1851. I thought it was Birstall Church, Borstall Church, but I can't figure it out.
Can anyone help please?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Yorkshire place name - help please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 10:57 BST (UK) »
Brithall or Bathall, maybe?  I don't think it can be Birstall, looking at the handwriting, which is a shame, because there actually is a place near Bradford called Birstall.
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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

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Re: Yorkshire place name - help please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 11:16 BST (UK) »
What are the neighbouring addresses on the census form?
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: Yorkshire place name - help please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 11:29 BST (UK) »
It really helps if we can see the whole page to be able to compare the writing. As its a census, if you can give us the census ref (Piece/Folio/page) or the details of someone in the household we can look it up and perhaps get a better idea

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 11:30 BST (UK) »
I predict Birstall.
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: Yorkshire place name - help please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 11:57 BST (UK) »
It's from the 1851 census; I'm not sure if this helps?
John RHODES (wife: Nancy RHODES) Gomersal, Yorkshire
HO107/2323/113 p 27

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 12:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks, that really helps. Yes I agree with Alan its Birstall Church.

If you are viewing this on Ancestry, the filmstrip shows this is image 28 of 31. Change that 28 to 1 and you can see the enumerators description of the area he covered. The writing on there is much easier to read and Birstall Church is clearly written.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 12:34 BST (UK) »
Map view 1854 6 inch.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345001#zoom=6.0&lat=6206&lon=6900&layers=BT

The itinerary mentions Smithies (lower right) and after all of the Birstall Church entries there are workhouse entries (middle left), so Birstall Church must be the area around St Peter's Church?

Note that it is spelled Birstal on this map.
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: Yorkshire place name - help please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 June 25 12:48 BST (UK) »
The tithe map of 1848 shows a group of houses immediately south of the church. On the apportionment one of the names is a John Rhodes who occupies 32 acres, including "Rectory House, garden and Homestead" which is one of the houses mentioned.

Sorry, I can’t post an image due to copyright.

But note that the Rectory is labelled on the map that I linked to.
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon