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Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 15:27 BST (UK) »
I am confident in placing John Bird in Breedon with a baptism of 25 Sep 1808.  I also believe he married Elizabeth Edwards on 3 Nov 1828, in Whitwick.  I think she was born in Worthington, around 1911.

I'm trying to find ancestors for both of them.  John's parents were, I believe, John and Sarah, but that's all I have.

Ancestry has several trees with suggestions, but none have links to corroborating documentary evidence.

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:00 BST (UK) »
The baptism entry for John in 1808 gives a residence of Newbold.

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks, that's interesting because Ancestry is giving me this:

John Bird in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Name   John Bird
Gender   Male
Baptism Date   25 Sep 1808
Baptism Place   Breedon On The Hill, Leicester, England
FHL Film Number   590853

Should I be sceptical about it?

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:42 BST (UK) »
Where do you have John & Elizabeth in 1851
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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:44 BST (UK) »
The only one I can find is for John, of Breedon, to Sarah Gadsby, of Coleorton, in 1803.

They might be in Newbold Hurst, Breedon, in 1841, John aged 60 and Sarah 70.

There is a burial of Sarah Bird of Worthington in 1842, aged 73.

Possibly Sarah Gadsby baptised 18th January 1772 in Breedon.

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:49 BST (UK) »
paja - I did say the "baptism" entry - the church was at Breedon on the Hill, but the family residence was stated as Newbold - a few miles away.
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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:53 BST (UK) »
Rosie- I have them in Peggs Green, Thringstone.  In 1851, Elizabeth is recorded as from Thringstone.  But in 1861 she's noted as Worthington.

I've not come across such inconsistency in birth locations before - one of their children is recorded as born in Thringstone (1851, 1861), Peggs Green (1871), Coleorton (1881, 1891), Whitwick (1901) and back to Coleorton in 1911.......!

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:56 BST (UK) »
BumbleB - thanks, I get it now.  Apologies for the confusion, my mistake.

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Re: Bird in/around Breedon on the Hill
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 June 25 17:02 BST (UK) »
I think that we also have to remember that "back in the day" this area was rural, and as such then people moved to wherever there was work.  The 1808 baptism doesn't give us an occupation for the father, but that might be the reason for such movement.  :-\ :-\
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