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Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 15:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

I wonder if anyone can find an Elizabeth (or Betty) Holt after the 1871 Census please.

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Baptised in 1794, Preston as Elizabeth Slater.
First marriage 1814, Preston - to Thomas Whalley (shown as Waller)
Second marriage 1830, Preston - to Christopher Parker.

She had children from her first 2 marriages (along with an illegitimate one in between!) As a result her children are named Whalley - then Parker.

Third marriage 1844, Preston to James Holt. No children.

1851 Census - Betty Holt living at 2, 'Whalley' Square, Preston - shown as married, but husband James Holt, living separately on 'Whalley' Square.

1861 Census - Elizabeth 'Hoult' Widow, shown as aged 67 at 7, 'Walley's' Square, Preston.

1871 Census - Elizabeth Holt - shown as aged 80, at 1, Whalley Square.

I cannot find her on the 1881 Census - nor can I see a likely death, under any variant of her name.

Just hoping that a fresh pair of eyes can embarrass me and find this frustrating lady please.
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 June 25 15:58 BST (UK) »
Is she living with anyone in 1871 or on her lonesome?

No obvious death 1871-1881 is there  :-\   There's an Elizabeth Hall 83 died Preston 1875 in case the name was written wrong but lots of Hall's so very tenuous.

Not buried with James Holt I take it.
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Milliepede - in 1871 she is alone, at 1, Whalley Square, Preston - shown as Elizabeth Holt aged 80 - occupation 'Keeps Mangle'!! (The occupation made me laugh - but in 1841 she had been a 'Mangle Keeper' as well!)

Thank you for looking at this query.
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:15 BST (UK) »
I wonder if she went to live with a relative in another area and died there but still can't find her.

Have you ruled out her being with any of her children in 1881?  More likely she had died I think but you never know.

Keeps Mangle that is an odd one!  Obviously very fond of it to keep it that long.
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:36 BST (UK) »
Yes. I agree - I had thought that she may be living with one of her children.

To be honest, I hadn't wanted to face that - she had 4 named Whalley and 3 surviving ones named Parker.

I really cannot find a death under her current name of Holt - so do suspect I will have to explore the children in 1881 unfortunately. This means finding the female marriages first (oh joy!).

(Regarding the Mangle - you can imagine it being VERY rusty after 30 years, if it was the same one).
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 June 25 21:33 BST (UK) »
I did have a brief look in 1881 for the children she was with on one census, mixture of Parker and Whalley names, but she wasn’t there. 

Abraham Parker was married by then if I recall and Richard Whalley had died before 1881.

Back to the mangle I remember my Gran having one and helping her turn it on wash day. 
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 June 25 21:43 BST (UK) »
She was still alive and at 7 Whalley-square 1874; there is a piece in the newspaper about some stolen sheets, Preston Herald 10 January 1874.
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 June 25 07:13 BST (UK) »
Oh thank you SO much.

Milliepede - yes - it was Abraham Parker I followed back to Elizabeth. He ended up in the Workhouse and died in the Asylum. This family have been so difficult from my friend's grandmother backwards.

(I remember my Mum having a Mangle when I was a child. How times have changed.)

Willsy - great find about the newspaper article!! I am so grateful.
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Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 June 25 15:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Penines, hoped it would narrow down a few dates for you.

Willsy

Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives