O’Callaghan/Lee

[terryt]

I am trying to establish the exact relationship of cousins John O’Callaghan and Edmond Lee who immigrated with a friend to Brisbane in 1885 both stayed with John’s aunt Catherine Callaghan/Luby
after their arrival.
John born 1864, Father Jeremiah born 1839, Mother Julia Crowley, Grandfather John birth unknown
Edmond Lee born 1866, Mother Johanna Callaghan born 1833, Father Eugene Lee, Grandfather Daniel Callaghan birth unknown
Daniel Joseph Lee brother of Edmond was a witness to the marriage of John O’Callaghan and
Ellen Keogh in 1888 in Brisbane, Qld, Australia.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[Neale1961]

Just to start things off   ……………….


Jeremiah Callaghan was at farmer at Cronody in Co Cork
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/east-muskerry/aglish/aglish/cronody/

Jeremiah was baptised in 1839 - the son of John Callaghan and Mary Goold
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X39W-9VZQ?lang=en

Jerry Callaghan married Julia Crowley on 9 March 1862 - OVENS & AGLIS
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/church/cork%20&%20ross.ballinhassig.p4795.00435.pdf
witnesses – Pat Callaghan and Julia Callaghan


Births for Callaghan – Crowley children:-

John Callaghan born 1864
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1864/03611/2332331.pdf

Jeremiah Callaghan born 1866
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1866/03524/2296590.pdf

Julia Callaghan born 1868
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1868/03415/2252528.pdf

James Callaghan born 1870
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1870/03317/2215608.pdf

Ellen Callaghan born 1874
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1874/03132/2148413.pdf

Children's baptisms appear to have been in Ovens.

[terryt]

Thank you Neale I have all that information.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[Neale1961]

Thank you Neale I have all that information.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

What a shame you posted none of it, to help get things started. 

[terryt]

Hello Neale, I didn’t want to overload with information I just stated the basics. I have the marriage
for John Callaghan and Mary Goold and the baptisms for their children and most of the records
for the children’s marriage. I don’t have parents for John or Mary.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[shanreagh]

'John born 1864, Father Jeremiah born 1839, Mother Julia Crowley, Grandfather John birth unknown'

Do you have the surname of the grandfather John? Was it Callaghan or Crowley?

or is this the John Callaghan and Mary Goold you mention in response to Neale1961?

Presumably you have the names of the siblings of Edmund Lee?

Have you found the baptisms of the children to find the sponsors to see if there are crossovers?

It is a little hard as you have already found much info and you say that the two who emigrated are 'cousins John O’Callaghan and Edmond Lee'

Have you found this wording out from family lore?  Cousinhood could denote close connections or sometimes an unknown relationship (say grandparents may have been siblings) but they just know they are related. In some irish families lopsided relationships ie the an uncle is the same age as a nephew they called themselves cousins. 

My Irish family were always quite exact about relationships and did not call people of the same age cousins when the relalionship was uncle/nephew etc. 

[terryt]

Hello Shanreagh,
Grandfather John was a Callaghan married to Mary Goold in 1838. The Callaghans and Goolds
were  on neighbouring farms. I have the baptisms for the Callaghans and births for Edmond and
his siblings. My interest to find the actual connection between John and Edmond came from the
funeral notice of John’s aunty, Catherine Callaghan/Luby daughter of John Callaghan and Mary
Goold. Along with John, Edmond was referred to as a nephew.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[heywood]

John Callaghan and Catherine Callaghan are brother and sister, is that right?
Have you discovered anything about Daniel Callaghan?

Jeremiah Callaghan’s sponsors were Daniel Callaghan and Ellen Callaghan

[terryt]

Hello Heywood,
John Callaghan and Catherine Callaghan are brother and sister the children of Jeremiah Callaghan and
Julia Crowley. Their children were Mary b1863, John b1864, Jeremiah b1866/d1871, Julia b1868,
James b1870, Jeremiah b1871, Ellen b1874, Catherine b1876, Hanora b1878, Margaret b1880,
Hannah b1883.

The children of John Callaghan and Mary Goold are
Jeremiah b1839, Ellen b1840, Mary b1843, Julia b1845, James b1847, Catherine b1850,
Honoria b1852, Margaret b1854.
Catherine is the aunty who John and Edmond stayed with after their arrival in Brisbane in 1885.
I haven’t found anything on Daniel Callaghan. I have being trying to find parents for John Callaghan
The families seemed to stick to the tradition naming the 1st son and daughter after the husband’s parents and the 2nd son and daughter after the wife’s parents.

Kind Regards
Carol thomson