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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 June 25 16:57 BST (UK) »
You guys are AWESOME!!!

Thank you so much for your help and insight. My head is spinning a little trying to place all this new information in my mind correctly.

Just to clarify... There were 2 men born in 1886, in Stockport, named William Greenhalgh.

I'll distinguish between to 2 by using their mother's maiden names.

1886 Q2 William (Turner) Greenhalgh
Son of Alfred Greenhalgh and Ellen Turner

On the 1911 census, a single William (Turner) Greenhalgh is living with his father, Alfred, and stepmother, Edith, at 22 Hempshaw Lane, Stockport. William is a Hatters Presser.

William (Turner) Greenhalgh died 08/12/1918 in a VAD hospital in Bourne, Lincolnshire.


1886 Q3 William (Astington) Greenhalgh (d/o/b 09/06/1886)
Son of Samuel Greenhalgh and Eliza Hannah Astington

William (Astington) Greenhalgh is single, alive and on the 1921 census living with his parents, Samuel and Eliza Hannah, at 23 Hallam Street, Stockport. William is a cabinet maker.


In 1912 Jane Hannah Lane married one of the William's. As Jane Hannah is a widow in 1921, and William (Astington) Greenhalgh is alive in 1921, Jane Hannah must have married William (Turner) Greenhalgh.

Children born before William's death:
Frances 1912
Annie 1914
Doris 1916
Hilda 1918
MODIFIED: William (Turner) Greenhalgh had sisters named Frances and Annie.

On the 1921 census, a widowed Jane Hannah is living with her children in her parents home, 83 Higher Hillgate, Stockport. Jane Hannah's father, Thomas, and one of her brothers, Thomas, were hatters.

Now, which military record relates to which man? I'm still trying to untangle the military side of things. Can someone clarify that for me? Apologies for struggling.

Many thanks, Rowan Tree  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 June 25 17:37 BST (UK) »
William Greenhalgh who married Jane Lane his Parents were Albert Greenhalgh and Ellen Turner his GRO Index was Stockport June Quarter 1886 Vol 8a page 65 Mother's Maiden Name = Turner
Ellen née Turner Died so Arthur Remarried in 1902 Edith Annie Mace - they had Two Daughters
Annie born June Quarter 1903
Frances born June Quarter 1905
Because William now had a Half Sister he named his first Daughter with Jane in 1912 after Frances

Looks like as Jane received £13 as a War Gratuity he must have been Transferred as 43648 into the Lincolnshire Regt though he lived in Stockport
When William was Transferred from the Lincolnshire into Labour Corps as 395649 his Lincolnshire number became spare and was reallocated to Frederick John Drewitt who as Pte 2036 of South Staffordshire Regt was Transferred to the 10th Lincolnshire and given spare number 43648

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 June 25 18:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks, that's superb.

Did both of the William Greenhalgh's get transferred to the Labour Corps?

I'm looking at a medal index card that shows both the Cheshire Regiment and the Labour Corps for William Greenhalgh, 2524 & 395649.
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 June 25 18:45 BST (UK) »
I'm looking at a Service Medal Award Roll that says the William Greenhalgh who died in 1918 had a date of disembarkation of 17/12/1915. Is this incorrect?
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN


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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #22 on: Monday 09 June 25 19:04 BST (UK) »
In order to qualify for the 15 Star he would have gone overseas during that year.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 June 25 19:13 BST (UK) »
I'm looking at a Service Medal Award Roll that says the William Greenhalgh who died in 1918 had a date of disembarkation of 17/12/1915. Is this incorrect?

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #24 on: Monday 09 June 25 19:16 BST (UK) »
I'm following you.

So, did both of the Williams get transferred to the labour corps? One from the Cheshire Regiment and the other from the Lincolnshire Regiment?
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #25 on: Monday 09 June 25 19:28 BST (UK) »
Does this clarify or complicate things...?  ???

MODIFIED:
Taken from The Stockport Express, date 16th January 1919.

I don't believe Jane Hannah, William's widow, is mentioned because she had children out of wedlock after her husband died (and was in the Greenhalgh families bad graces as a consequence). I'm not certain that her third and fourth child were her husbands given their dates of birth (but I'm not certain). After William died, Jane Hannah had 5 more children. They all had the surname of Greenhalgh.
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #26 on: Monday 09 June 25 19:33 BST (UK) »
That means the Army got his War Gratuity Calculated wrong and everything else is OK now.

Strange the Roll Medal Card for his British War Medal and Victory Medal doesn't list the Lincolnshire Regt service after the Cheshire Regt

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