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CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm wondering if I'm missing something here...

I'm looking into:
Private William GREENHALGH
6th Bn Cheshire Regiment (2524)
Transferred to 477th Agricultural Company, Labour Corps (395649)

On William's Commonwealth War Graves Commission headstone it says he was a member of the 10th Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment (395649), transferred to 477th Agricultural Company, Labour Corps.

I don't THINK he was ever with the Lincolnshire Regiment.

In a British War Medal and Victory Medal Award Roll, the soldier above William GREENHALGH, Charles Sykes (27828), was in the Lincolnshire Regiment, though.

Is this a gravestone cock-up, or am I missing something?

While I'm here... I've found two dates of death for William GREENHALGH. Most sources gives his date of death as 8th December 1918, but a pension ledger and index card gives his date of death as 16th January 1919. The card appears to refer to the correct William GREENHALGH as it names his widow and children.

A bit of extra background on William:

Born c. 1886.
He married Jane Hannah LANE in 1912 in Stockport.
His address was 83 Higher Hillgate, Stockport.
He died in a VAD Hospital in Bournemouth.

If anyone thinks they can shed any light on this one, I'd be very grateful.

Cheers, Rowan Tree  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 June 25 22:54 BST (UK) »
His date of death is recorded in the register of soldiers' effects as December 1918, and he is in the middle of a load of other deaths from November/December that year

I haven't got a Fold 3 sub to look at the pension index, but I've managed to zoom in on a thumbnail on A* and it looks they've recorded an admin date when a form was received in Jan 1919 as his date of death, when elsewhere on the card the date of death is recorded as Dec 1918. Cause influenza and pneumonia

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 June 25 23:06 BST (UK) »
His date of death is recorded in the register of soldiers' effects as December 1918, and he is in the middle of a load of other deaths from November/December that year

I haven't got a Fold 3 sub to look at the pension index, but I've managed to zoom in on a thumbnail on A* and it looks they've recorded an admin date when a form was received in Jan 1919 as his date of death, when elsewhere on the card the date of death is recorded as Dec 1918. Cause influenza and pneumonia
Thanks, that helps solve that mystery.

And the cause of death is new information.

I appreciate your help  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 June 25 02:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,
You might find this of general interest.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/about-our-records/

ATB

Simon
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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 June 25 02:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Simon 👍
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 June 25 11:33 BST (UK) »
You are correct, he wasn't in the Lincs.
10th. Btn. Lincs. men had the prefix no 10/ your man doesn't.
6th. Btn. Cheshire men had numbers in this range.
ie. 2545 joined Sept. 1914.
The 10th. Lincs. went overseas in Jan. 1916 your man had the
15 Star with a disembarkation date of 17/12/15.
The 6th. Btn. Cheshires were in France at the time.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 June 25 14:37 BST (UK) »
His date of death is recorded in the register of soldiers' effects as December 1918, and he is in the middle of a load of other deaths from November/December that year

I haven't got a Fold 3 sub to look at the pension index, but I've managed to zoom in on a thumbnail on A* and it looks they've recorded an admin date when a form was received in Jan 1919 as his date of death, when elsewhere on the card the date of death is recorded as Dec 1918. Cause influenza and pneumonia

Agreed  - the  Ancestry Typist preparing the Summary page for the Dependents Pension Card incorrectly typed the Notification for Receipt as his Death  - the Card correctly shows 8 December 1918
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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 June 25 14:43 BST (UK) »
The CWGC Headstone shows Pte 43648 W Greenhalgh of 10th Lincolnshire 8 December 1918 age 31 which agrees their Record but there are No Medal Records for that number or Soldiers Effects
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Re: CWGC Headstone Wrong??? 6th Bn Cheshire Reg & 477th Agricultural Corps
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 June 25 21:27 BST (UK) »
Pte 2524 William Greenhalgh of 6th Cheshire Regt received his Pip Squeak and Wilfred in 1920 per the Roll Cards he never sent them back
and was at Home with his Parents Samuel and Eliza Hannah at 23 Hallam Street Stockport
- Single aged 35 and a Cabinet Maker

He was unaware of the Error on his MIC

There is an Ancestry Tree that has his incorrect Birth Index but all his Census 1891 1901 1911 but had him Married with Children and not on his Parents 1921 Census
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY