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Wait for service records
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 14:57 BST (UK) »
I applied to the National Archives for my late father's WW2 service record as long ago as December 2023.  The first response I had indicated that the wait time would be about six months. I've had a couple of further e mails saying that they are working on it and I will hear soon, but the last one of those was over a year ago

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing the same, in which case I will sit tight or, if this is unusual, what, if anything, I should do now.

Thanks
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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 June 25 15:18 BST (UK) »
As you may know the National Archives received just over 9 million service records from the MOD covering the period 1920 to 1963. They are slowly going through these and cataloguing them. Then, for the records of men born over 100 years ago, Ancestry have a contract to digitise these records. The problem is that the records are stored on a number of pallets, which although they are in a certain order, only the MOD knows the actual order.

It would have been better to initially direct your request to the MOD as they would have given you an unique reference number which you could then give to TNA to identify the pallet and group where the record you are interested in resides. I suspect that TNA are reluctant go on fishing expeditions into unopened pallets at random, to look for a particular record, hence the delay. 

I know this doesn't help with when you can expect your requested record, but it perhaps explains, in part, why there has been a delay.

If it's any consolation, I applied for a relative's Canadian Air Force records from the Library and Archives of Canada in August 2019 and finally received them in July 2023.

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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 June 25 16:30 BST (UK) »
I've been seeing on Several Forums complaints from Ancestors upon receiving their Ancestors WW2 Records are surprised to find that are not in English but in Military Codes and Abbreviations that they can't Decipher
Good Luck
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY

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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 June 25 18:10 BST (UK) »
I did what I was told to do at the time, which was to make an FOI request to the National Archives.  This was acknowledged with a lead time of about six months and I have had e mails since saying that they are dealing with my request, but nothing for over a year.

I was just curious whether I am an outlier or whether others are having a similar experience.
Nottinghamshire: Billyard; Fletcher
Lincolnshire: Beck; Smith
Leicestershire: Goadby; Iliffe;
Warwickshire: Bradbury; Friswell; Gilliver; Beesley


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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 June 25 19:09 BST (UK) »
"I've been seeing on Several Forums complaints from Ancestors upon receiving their Ancestors WW2 Records are surprised to find that are not in English but in Military Codes and Abbreviations that they can't Decipher
Good Luck"

I find that a very blinkered view of Service Records.

They were intended for use by clerks and individuals who were trained in a particular admin system.

To expect these to have been recorded 80+ years ago in a format that would be understood by inexperienced recipient regardless of intended purpose is petty and selfish form of complaint.



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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 June 25 19:40 BST (UK) »
"I've been seeing on Several Forums complaints from Ancestors upon receiving their Ancestors WW2 Records are surprised to find that are not in English but in Military Codes and Abbreviations that they can't Decipher
Good Luck"

I find that a very blinkered view of Service Records.

They were intended for use by clerks and individuals who were trained in a particular admin system.

To expect these to have been recorded 80+ years ago in a format that would be understood by inexperienced recipient regardless of intended purpose is petty and selfish form of complaint.



Ross

Totally Agreed Ross   
That was my Opinion
I Can't understand why they are surprised
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Re: Wait for service records
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 June 25 19:55 BST (UK) »
I've been seeing on Several Forums complaints from Ancestors upon receiving their Ancestors WW2 Records are surprised to find that are not in English but in Military Codes and Abbreviations that they can't Decipher
Good Luck

I think you mean complaints from descendants   complaints from ancestors would be an impossibility. ;D ;D :D
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.