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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 June 25 19:29 BST (UK) »
The betty Solomon who died 1981 had a dob of 22.8.1926. She appears on 1939 war register with the same dob as “ at school” in Eastbourne. The  Solomon/craze birth was registered jq
1927

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I was confirming that this WAS NOT your Bessie/betty

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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 June 25 20:07 BST (UK) »
Further information only
Rosina Amelia young married John frauenglass 1932
Birth of Thelma in 1933

1939 rose frauenglass (Young)dob 1.12.1910 her mmm Gray

Birth of Michael p Beckman 1944 mmn Young

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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 June 25 09:55 BST (UK) »
The trees have Rosina as Rosina Amelia (Mamie) Young, and Mark born on 27th August 1906.

The 39 register has 25th August 1906.

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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 June 25 10:46 BST (UK) »
I understand that Edward Solomon died in 1952 following an accident at Little Venice.

In 1950 he was found guilty of 'Loitering for the purpose of betting'
Holloway Press - 27th January 1950

Did his father Henry 'marry' Germaine Wallace who was living with them in 1939 - Her record was amended 19th Feb 1951 to show the surname Solomon.

Her death
Death June qtr 1966   
SOLOMON    GERMAINE   age 64   
CAMBERWELL    5A   526
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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 June 25 10:49 BST (UK) »
It may help find Bessie/Betty in 1939 if we had her exact birth date.

I can't see a birth registration that fits that Eastbourne Bessie/Betty  :-\

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How did Bessie afford to pay the £4,000 costs for that court case. 
I see her address at the time was Thurloe Place, Kensington
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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 June 25 13:10 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Many thanks for all your replies. I have just spoken to the grand daughter of Rose and Mark. Before I mentioned it she said the name Mamie rang a bell, so I know for certain we have the right person. I also now have a picture of the gravestone for Mark Simmons. Rosina(Mamie) born Young, married Frauenhaus had Thelma, married Beckman had Michael, married Mark in 1951. I can see that Thelma and Michael both married, but have not looked further. So that answers one of my queries.
As regards Bessie. I wondered where she got the £4000 from. Must be about £200,000 in todays money. I have her birth as 2nd quarter 1927. the death in 1981 could be her. More research needed
I have seen the article about Edward loitering with intent
thanks again
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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 June 25 14:35 BST (UK) »
The Betty / Bessie that died in 1981 (probate 1982) left £28,831  ::)
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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 June 25 14:39 BST (UK) »
I know we are looking for Bessie but posting this as information for the time being.
There is a marriage in dq 1946 Marylebone of a John frauenglass to Joyce M Jacob’s/ Joyce M Randall, also on same page a Jack Beckman/ Joyce M Jacob’s// Randall
1947/1948 electoral registers has

JoYCE M FRAVENGLASS
ADA M JACOBS
EMANUEL JACOBS
JOHN BECKMAN
All living at 102, lauderdale road, Maida Vale

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Re: Rose Craze (Solomon)(Simmons)+ Bessie Solomon. Mark Simmons
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 June 25 15:35 BST (UK) »
Just mentioning for those trying to help Bessie is with Benjamin and Hannah Craze in the late 1940's /1950's - Maida Vale
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