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Army Red tape
« on: Tuesday 03 June 25 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
You have to love Army red tape.

Just looking into another of my War dead; Frank Wear who die 3 August 1917 & is buried at Douai Communal Cemetery.

When I looked at his medal card it as him as assumed dead 3 August 1917 with the explains that he is on the roll of dead men for the regiment but Army form 118 has not yet been received with the date 17 May 1920

So does that mean that he is still alive in Military records.

John
Ellam, Mills, Ellins
Firth, Wood, Muffitt
Hill, Mattinson, Nicholson
Morrey, Hudson, Limb

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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 15:13 BST (UK) »
His father received a war gratuity in Dec. 1919 with the info that his death had been accepted (by the Army).
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 15:48 BST (UK) »
Don't think he was married
Ellam, Mills, Ellins
Firth, Wood, Muffitt
Hill, Mattinson, Nicholson
Morrey, Hudson, Limb

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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 15:57 BST (UK) »
Amended above post. It was his father.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 17:06 BST (UK) »
his father was dead but another Frank Wear of the same age, father Frederick from Huddersfield died 3 May 1917
Ellam, Mills, Ellins
Firth, Wood, Muffitt
Hill, Mattinson, Nicholson
Morrey, Hudson, Limb

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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 17:30 BST (UK) »
Well it looks like your man.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 June 25 21:52 BST (UK) »
his father was dead but another Frank Wear of the same age, father Frederick from Huddersfield died 3 May 1917

His Father Died in Sheffield in March Quarter 1937 his Name was Thomas William Wear married to Lily Wear née Blake

Frank Wear was Born September Quarter 1897 Sheffield Vol 9c page 530 Mother's Maiden Name = Blake

He was One of Eight Children  2 died pre 1911

He Died aged 20 Unmarried


Those Parents Details agree the Parents on the Soldiers Effects Records for arrears of his Army Pay and the War Gratuity Payment

Frederick Wear from Huddersfield who died in Sheffield in 1918 has nothing to do with this Soldier
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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 June 25 07:17 BST (UK) »
The medal card still said assumed dead which means some departments have his death & others don't. When you look at the medal cards of those like his brother who have no known grave, most of those don't say assumed dead.

His brothers service record throw up another curiosity,

Ellam, Mills, Ellins
Firth, Wood, Muffitt
Hill, Mattinson, Nicholson
Morrey, Hudson, Limb

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Re: Army Red tape
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 June 25 12:09 BST (UK) »
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His brothers service record throw up another curiosity,
What curiosity?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/