ASHBY - BATTY marriage, did it happen?

[sft456]

Hi

Mary Ann ASHBY was b poss 18.9.1815 Marylebone, London, dau of poss Thomas Ashby & Jane Roberts m 19.5.1808 St Mary, Marylebone, London

In 1851 as Mary Ann BATTY, she was a widow living in Marylebone, London, with sisters, Catherine, Frances & Dina ASHBY - all Dressmakers; the 3 sisters were single

As such, despite a good deal of research, we can't find a m for her with a Mr Batty

In 1854 (no full date unfortunately) she m (2) William Taylor Haines at St Margaret, Westminster.....

This may be Mary Ann in 1841 as Mary Ann ASHBY, residing in Grafton Place, St Pancras, aged 25, with a Joshua & Martha Thonston - no details on Family Search

Any assistance as to her 1st m will be gratefully received - did this m result in any children?

sft456

[PaulineJ]

She MAY have been wed twice by 1851. have you looked for candidate deaths for Mr Batty?

if not, are these 2 deaths & one birth at all relevant?
BATTY, CHARLES       20 
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 02  Page 232

BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     ASHBY 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 289
BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     0 
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 177

[Milliepede]

I would suggest getting a copy of the 1854 marriage to confirm her age, status and father’s name.

What surname did she marry under?

[Milliepede]

You are in luck the marriage is online

17 August 1854

She is of full age and a widow

Father Thomas Ashby deceased master baker

Witnesses Thomas Ashby and Frances Ashby

[LizzieL]

BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     ASHBY 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 289
BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     0 
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 177

Transcript on FindMyPast
Charles Ashly (sic ) Batty
bapt 27 Jun 1841  Paddington. s/o John and Marianne

[LizzieL]

Marriage Kensington 23 Jun 1835, John Batty and Mary Ann Ashly

[sft456]

Thanks

Whether she m once or twice, this must have happened between 1841 if that is her in 1841 as Mary Ann ASHBY aged 25? and 1851 when she was a widow as BATTY. She m W T Haines as Batty

We have checked for 2 possible ms by linking her name Ashby with others in the St Pancras area 1841-1851, then linking poss 1st ms with Batty in the same area, same date - Nothing

If she was not recorded on the 1841 C then she may have m before 1841

[LizzieL]

BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     ASHBY 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 289
BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     0 
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 177

There's also a Thomas Edward Batty mmn Ashby  birth reg Marylebone Q1 1843

[LizzieL]

BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     ASHBY 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 289
BATTY, CHARLES  ASHBY     0 
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 177

Transcript on FindMyPast
Charles Ashly (sic ) Batty
bapt 27 Jun 1841  Paddington. s/o John and Marianne

Found image on Ancestry, middle name looks more like ASHBY to me.
The child was born on May 29th 1841, so should bo in 1841 census. John Batty was a plasterer