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Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 23:43 BST (UK) »
A few occupations here please.

from 1575
Jacques Patte is a master ?

And Jacques Laurens is I think an 'espichier' - a spelling of 'epicier', grocer?

1618
What's Jehan Duvivier's occupation?
'Organistre'? Google translate tells me 'Organiser'?

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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 June 25 00:36 BST (UK) »
Charctier may be the modern charcutier, a pork butcher. Organistre would be an organist. However, these words may have changed their meanings slightly over the years. A French expert will doubtless come along and prove me wrong!

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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 June 25 01:20 BST (UK) »
Espicier is
terme accolé à apothicaire qui rappelle que les matières premières pour la fabrication de médicaments venaient en partie des épices précieuses à travers la fameuse route de la Soie 

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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 June 25 08:40 BST (UK) »
Jacques Patte is a "maître charetier" (today charretier) = a carter
espichier - yes, I think it is épicier who sold spices, sugar, honey, etc according to this site :
 https://www.vieuxmetiers.org/
BDF Twigg, Ellingham, Gates
BKM Bilbey, Collins, Brandon, Norwood, Smith
HAM Holloway (Romsey area)
HRT Brooks (Tring area)
LDN Saunders, Beedle
MDX Saunders
MLN Maitland, Robertson, McGlashan(all Edinburgh)
OXF Morby, Cross, Gardner (all Banbury area)
SAL Jones, Mathews, Higginson, Davies, Gobourn, Blount
WAR Pritchard (Birmingham)
WRY Dickinson, Atkinson, Mellon, Pritchard, Ashforth, Helliwell, Hague, Dungworth (all Sheffield area)


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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 June 25 09:20 BST (UK) »
Snipped from Abel Boyer's 1702 "Diçtionnaire Royal, Francois et Anglois; ....."

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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 June 25 12:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for everybody's replies.

I had wondered about 'organist' - I thought 'organiser' from Google a little unlikely!
But I wondered of they had organs and organists in 1618.
Wikipeadia tells me that organs have been around a long, long time, and it looks quite feasible that there were organs in churches, at this time.

That looks like an informative site jaygee, and also the 1702 Dictionary hanes teulu.
Thanks for those.
Interesting where this genealogy stuff takes you!  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 June 25 21:55 BST (UK) »
could it be someone who plays the organ

i thought of a church organist but how about an organ grinder ?
with or without a monkey.

that could be a totally different word in French 

edit * hey goigle " tells me its a jouer de orgue

could a church organist be a full time job
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Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 June 25 09:15 BST (UK) »
could a church organist be a full time job

Thomas Tomkins - appointed organist at Worcester Cathedral 1596