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Offline Andy J2022

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Re: How old is this building?
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 01 June 25 21:41 BST (UK) »
And perhaps the school building, or parts of it, did survive into the 1860s ...
Certainly parts may have survived, but not the front part, because the press cuttings above are dated March 1862 and by then Messrs Vey, Eustance etc are occupying numbers 26 to 32 London Road. The school building had a single front entrance and so would not have had multiple numbers as its address.

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« Reply #37 on: Sunday 01 June 25 21:56 BST (UK) »
I was looking at the window styles and pattern of the frontage of the Blind School in that old engraving and was struck by the many similarities with the upper storey frontage of 28-32 London Road today

https://maps.app.goo.gl/PDBW7HUNzxNkqiq88

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« Reply #38 on: Sunday 01 June 25 22:38 BST (UK) »
I was looking at the window styles and pattern of the frontage of the Blind School in that old engraving and was struck by the many similarities with the upper storey frontage of 28-32 London Road today

https://maps.app.goo.gl/PDBW7HUNzxNkqiq88
Yes I agree, hence my earlier comment "and may have reused some of the architectural stonework..."

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« Reply #39 on: Sunday 01 June 25 22:49 BST (UK) »
On the other hand if you use google street view to move a little further East to number 38-40 there is similar architecture on that building.

Also, I wonder if stevelord65 has noticed that the building (number 34 London Road) on the other side of Hotham street is called the Drapery. In the 1871 census John Lloyd was referring to himself and his business as a Draper's.


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« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 08:35 »
I did notice that yes Andy :) Looking in the street directories though, number 32 is always in the block between Hotham & Pudsey streets. Either number 34 was also a drapers business at some point in its history, or the whole thing is a spooky coincidence...

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« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 08:48 »
The London Road area is being promoted now as the "Fabric District" .  This probably has influenced the naming of the development at 34-48 as "The Drapery".

https://fabricdistrict.co.uk/2022/09/welcome-to-the-fabric-district/

https://www.redwing.co.uk/the-drapery/
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« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 09:31 »
And perhaps the school building, or parts of it, did survive into the 1860s ...
Certainly parts may have survived, but not the front part, because the press cuttings above are dated March 1862 and by then Messrs Vey, Eustance etc are occupying numbers 26 to 32 London Road. The school building had a single front entrance and so would not have had multiple numbers as its address.

Also, as I noted somewhere above, the School address was 18 London Road, so clearly some reorganisation took place in the area. I suspect the block to the east of Hotham Street also changed.
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« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 10:00 »
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The suggestion is that the Blind school was vacated/demolished because of the expansion of Lime Street Station, but that makes no sense if you look at any map: the station has never encroached even past Lord Nelson Street.

There's a better explanation here: http://www.thefootballvoice.com/2022/02/remembering-liverpool-structures-royal.html

"In 1849 the L.N.W.R. agreed to exchange land they held in Hope Street and Hardman Street, plus the sum of £9,500 for the entire estate adjoining Lime Street Station owned by the school."
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« Reply #44 on: Yesterday at 10:33 »
There was certainly a renumbering after the redevelopment of the old blind school. The Crown Vaults (Benjamin Mitchell) which was on the next block up from Hotham Street was originally number 24; the Stanley Arms (John Green) further up  was 30 and/or 32 (directories differ slightly).
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