Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge

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willsy, that was an excellent find, well done.

SS

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Death of John Pettigrew.

SS

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Further info only. Looking closely at John's death in 1878 record's he is a widower of Margaret Rat****. Margaret from the little we know was aged 40 in 1869, and 32 in 1861 census born Warrington c1829.

She married for seemingly the 3RD time in 4th October 1854 to John Pettigrew. Her father Adam Lester--Basket Maker

Her 2ND marriage as a widow (Margaret Ratcliffe) 26th September 1852 was to Christopher Kay. Her father Adam Leicester-occ Basket Maker.

1St marriage--trying to establish if indeed there was one.

PETTIGREW, WILLIAM       mmn RATCLIFFE 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 473

SS

added, Do not personally think there was a 1st marriage.

1851 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYJ-216?lang=en


SS

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Adam Leicester married Betty Ratcliff 10th Feb 1834 Grappenhall, Cheshire

Baptism of Margaret Ratcliffe 7.6.1829 Warrington, mother Betsy--no father recorded.

1841 census--Church Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire, England

Adam   Leicester   Male   35   1806   Lancashire, England  basket maker
Betsey   Leicester   Female   30   1811   Lancashire, England
John   Leicester   Male   10   1831   Lancashire, England
Ellen   Leicester   Female   0   1841   Lancashire, England
Margaret   Ratcliffe   Female   12   1829   Lancashire, England
John   Ratcliffe   Male   9   1832   Lancashire, England
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1851 census--image for surname looks more like Leicester

Adam   Lancaster   Head   Married   Male   47   1804   Basket maker   Penketh, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth   Lancaster   Wife   Married   Female   48   1803   Wife   Lancashire, England
Mary Ann   Lancaster   Daughter   -   Female   10   1841   Scholar   Warrington, Lancashire, England
John   Ratclieff   Lodger   Unmarried   Male   19   1832   Labourer   Warrington, Lancashire, England

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1861

Adam   Suiter   Head   Married   Male   58   1803   Basket maker   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth   Suiter   Wife   Married   Female   53   1808   -   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann   Suiter   Daughter   -   Female   10   1851   Scholar   Warrington, Lancashire, England

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1871 census

Mary   Fisher   Head   -   Female   35   1836   Fustian cutter   Warrington, Lancashire, England
James   Fisher   Son   -   Male   12   1859   Scholar   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Mary Ellen   Fisher   Daughter   -   Female   3   1868   Scholar   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Adam   Leicester   Lodger   -   Male   68   1803   Basket maker   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann   Leicester   Daughter   -   Female   20   1851   Weaver   Warrington, Lancashire, England

[willsy]

Thank wilcoxon and SS; have been looking and I don't think there was a first marriage either.

[willsy]

I think this is a record for son William, admitted to the same workhouse as Margaret, discharged 21st May 1874 age 18

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tso/

Death reg. for a William Pettigrem 1875 age 19

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tsp/

[brigidmac]

do you have age of ann roberts on marriage and names of witnesses

how many john roberts stonemasons are there on  any 1841 census with an Ann or john of  appropriate age to be his child

[wilcoxon]

Thanks for sticking with this, remember it isn't a relative but I was curious about the advert.
There is no 1841 census for Wrexham area.

Wittnesses Edwd Lovatt ? John Shefton his mark.
They married in St Giles which is in Wrexham. Both full age.

[wilcoxon]

An Edward Lovatt was a Parish Clerk. Bapt 1826 buried 1886.  Noted as Clerk of this parish for 34 years