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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 31 May 25 09:36 BST (UK) »
A John Shefton married Hannah Griffiths in Brymbo 1835. Banns only,
1851 they are in Abbot Street. Wrexham.  Shephton. Wine merchant
Also in Abbot Street is Edward Lovatt clerk. Father is a publican.

Possibly no relation.  Abbot Street is very close to St Giles. 
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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 31 May 25 09:43 BST (UK) »
Ann Roberts

BAPTISM DATE:11 Jun 1827
BAPTISM PLACE:Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
FATHER:John. Mason
MOTHER:Jane
Abode Brymbo.
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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 31 May 25 13:32 BST (UK) »
John Roberts / Jane Jones .
marriage banns Brymbo.18 Feb 1827

John Roberts, bachelor ,  Mason married  Jane Jones widow   in Wrexham 9 Mar 1827
John signed Jane X
Witnesses John Hughes / Jane Hughes both X

Not finding a definite baptism for John Roberts brother  of Ann.
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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 31 May 25 13:51 BST (UK) »
1851 Piece   2502  Folio   277  Page number   14
John Pettigrew   28   Head b   Cumberworth, Lancashire, England
Ann Pettigrew 23
Jane Pettigrew 2 Daughter
John Pettigrew 5 Mo Son
Jane Roberts 68 Lodger

10 April 1858
A Jane Roberts was buried at Brymbo  aged 75.

Not finding a definate  burial for John Roberts .

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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 31 May 25 22:59 BST (UK) »
Just running this by you, Jane Roberts is as age 68 and with not finding a baptism for John, do you think John could be a Jones?

However, I did find a marriage of a John Roberts to Mary Ann Taylor, Wrexham 1839

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Father John Roberts mason
Wit. John Roberts, Jane Evans

Collier on marriage, born Brymbo and Collier on census returns, birth 1821/1822

1851 Census, Brymbo John, Mary, Ed, Jane

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Jane Q1 Wrexham 1847 MMN Taylor

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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 01 June 25 01:51 BST (UK) »
looks like wilcoxon is on right lines researching the mother more could lead to a breakthrough . her grave or her marriage & maiden name .

dont think john could be a jones unless mother married twice + he took on stepfathers name .or was born to a single mother  before his parents were married

the Will specifically names him as john ROBERTS

dont think youve answered my questions re ann & pettigrews marriage certificate + witnesses

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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 01 June 25 08:03 BST (UK) »
looks like wilcoxon is on right lines researching the mother more could lead to a breakthrough . her grave or her marriage & maiden name .

dont think john could be a jones unless mother married twice + he took on stepfathers name .or was born to a single mother  before his parents were married

the Will specifically names him as john ROBERTS

dont think youve answered my questions re ann & pettigrews marriage certificate + witnesses


Thanks for sticking with this, remember it isn't a relative but I was curious about the advert.
There is no 1841 census for Wrexham area.

Wittnesses Edwd Lovatt ? John Shefton his mark.
They married in St Giles which is in Wrexham. Both full age.
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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 June 25 08:04 BST (UK) »
looks like wilcoxon is on right lines researching the mother more could lead to a breakthrough . her grave or her marriage & maiden name .

dont think john could be a jones unless mother married twice + he took on stepfathers name .or was born to a single mother  before his parents were married

the Will specifically names him as john ROBERTS

dont think youve answered my questions re ann & pettigrews marriage certificate + witnesses


A John Shefton married Hannah Griffiths in Brymbo 1835. Banns only,
1851 they are in Abbot Street. Wrexham.  Shephton. Wine merchant
Also in Abbot Street is Edward Lovatt clerk. Father is a publican.

Possibly no relation.  Abbot Street is very close to St Giles.
Census information is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)

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Re: Looking for John Roberts . A Challenge
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 01 June 25 12:41 BST (UK) »
John Roberts / Jane Jones .
marriage banns Brymbo.18 Feb 1827

John Roberts, bachelor ,  Mason married  Jane Jones widow   in Wrexham 9 Mar 1827
John signed Jane X
Witnesses John Hughes / Jane Hughes both X

Not finding a definite baptism for John Roberts brother  of Ann.
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives