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Online David Nicoll

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Re: DNA match on MyHeritage but not on Ancestry
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 August 25 08:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   A couple of further points.

   Yes heritage matching is a game, based on the companies database.
   Hence the recent change in the Ancestry database results.
   I have gone from about 60% Scot’s to 60% Germanic, both correct, but from a genealogical point of view the revisal is pointless. It is simply saying that a vast percentage of the population of the UK came from the continent in the last 3 thousand or so years, so we share a lot of DNA.

  The Timber algorithm does not have a specific cM cutoff, it is simply that if you have a match who shares multiple short matches, this is likely to be a more distant relative.
  The white paper shows that for the Timber algorithm, they have made assumptions that may be true in the USA, though not for longer established families. Which is that people are unlikely to be doubly related.
  This is I would say wrong in Europe, before the Industrial Revolution people did move but generally populations were much more stable. So people were much more likely to be doubly related.
  The Timber algorithm means that they deliberately throw away match data, (partly at least on financial grounds), which are matches at the 7th to 8th generation level.
  This means that you may miss that critical match to the family who know more about their ancestry, and take you back to 1700 or beyond.
   In the USA it means that long established families may not be able to match their DNA in Europe, similarly hamstringing research.
   See the Ancestry white paper on matching for the detail.

https://www.ancestrycdn.com/support/us/2025/01/2025matchingwhitepaper.pdf
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Re: DNA match on MyHeritage but not on Ancestry
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 August 25 10:30 BST (UK) »

I am trying to understand why someone's Ancestry DNA profile is showing as no match on Ancestry but yet shows 60cM on MyHeritage?

We have both done Ancestry DNA tests, linked them, and then imported the DNA profile into MyHeritage.

Can anyone please help explain this?

I'm not sure there is a simple explanation for this, neither Ancestry's Timber nor MyHeritage imputation would account for it as, as has been said, both sets of data originated on Ancestry and were imported to MyHeritage.

I would start by getting a third opinion, GedMatch would be best as it gives you more control over the matching parameters, but FamilyTreeDNA would also work.

You actually have a really good opportunity to examine the differences between Ancestry and MyHeritage matching but it would involve a fair bit of work.

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Re: DNA match on MyHeritage but not on Ancestry
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 August 25 23:38 BST (UK) »
I assume, and John may correct me, that the 60cM match is made up of several low cM segments in which case Timber is very much in play.
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