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Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 19:56 BST (UK) »
I'm having trouble deciphering the attached baptism entry. Sadly the entry seems to have been soiled making it very difficult to read the name. Ancestry and Findmypast decipher the daughter's name as Sarah. But there are many people who seemed to have deciphered the name as Jane in their family trees. I'll be honest, I find it difficult to make out any name! So I'm just asking for opinions on what people think the name might be, if that's not possible it would be useful to at least rule out the name Jane. 



What most people seem to agree on is the rest of the entry:

"_________ the daughter of John Bufton & Elizabeth his wife."



For those who may have access to better sources here's the ancestry record details:

Name:   Sarah Bufton
Baptism Age:   0
Record Type:   Baptism
Birth Date:   1765
Baptism Date:   1765
Baptism Place:   Llanfihangel Nant Melan, Radnorshire, Wales
Father:   John
Mother:   Elizabeth

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Re: Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 20:30 BST (UK) »
I'm not really sure but I think I see __abeth, the left hand side of the document is not clear at all. Could it be Elizabeth?

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Re: Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 21:06 BST (UK) »
I'm not really sure but I think I see __abeth, the left hand side of the document is not clear at all. Could it be Elizabeth?

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Thank you Bethany - that was my first thought, but I think the close proximity of the word "the" after the name, makes it look like Elizabeth. i.e. the closeness of the word "the" makes it look like the "th" on the end of the name Elizabeth, rather a separate word.

Zoomed in I now think it might actually be "Sarah" with a bit of an ink blot on the "h" and the words underneath probably "his wife" also being too close to the line above causing the letters of the name to look different than what they are.

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Re: Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 May 25 05:07 BST (UK) »
It does help to have the whole page to look at.

What daughters’ names would you be expecting for this family in this period ?

Hard to see the date and Sarah or Jane though the next part “the Daughter of John … “ is clear.
Mother is Elizabeth.
For the child …
The first letter has the thicker curving downstroke of J or S same as J in John and S in Son, but too shadowy in monochrome to make out the complete letter.
The last letters, before the splot, look like _af
Long f similar to how of is written and wife
Unless that long letter is a crease or more blemish ?

But what girl’s ends that way ?


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Re: Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 May 25 06:10 BST (UK) »
Zoomed in I now think it might actually be "Sarah" with a bit of an ink blot on the "h" and the words underneath probably "his wife" also being too close to the line above causing the letters of the name to look different than what they are.

I tend to agree.  I've made a version, highlighting the area containing the S-a-r-a.

This part is fairly clear of the artifacts blighting most of the nearby text.

Note that the father's surname contains either double-f or double-s.

There is probably a t following.  It is continuous with the down-stroke of the second f or s, as was their habit.