Harriett Gardener

[NorthernGeezer]

Struggling to find out anything about my 4 times great grandmother Harriett Gardener.
What I know.............. Harriett married Uvedale Davis/ Davies on 15th August 1814 in Hope under Dinmore, Herefordshire.
Uvedale was previously married to Ann Munn who died sometime between March 1812, which is the date of the birth of their daughter Ann, and his subsequent marriage to Harriett in 1814.
Harriett is listed on the 41/51/61 census being 40/ 50/ 60, which puts her birth around 1801 meaning she married at 13 to a guy who was 25 years older than her 
All 3 census records show her as being born in Mansel Lacy, Herefordshire, the search for a Harriett Gardener between the dates of 1770 and 1810 has found nothing.
Two possibilities..............Gardener was not her birth name and she was previously married, in which case I'll never find her or, she wasn't born in Mansel Lacy but somewhere else.
There are at least 3 other possibilities if the 1801 birth in Mansel Lacy is wrong.
I have been in touch with the churches at Mansell Lacy and Hope under Dinmore for parish records, both of which pointed me to the archive records office of Herefordshire County Council who have the same marriage record I have but nothing else.
So........is this the end of the road or can anyone suggest anything else??
Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated.

[CaroleW]

1851 census shows a son Henry aged 21 & a 13yr old daughter Elizabeth.  GRO online shows Elizabeth's birth in Dec qtr 1837 as Elizabeth Harriet Davies mmn Gardiner which suggests Harriet was single when she married in 1814

1841 has sons James 20 & Henry 11

On all censuses her birthyear matches to 1801

[Neale1961]

 Edit, incorrect detail removed

I would say it is unlikely she was married at age 13. More likely is that she did not know her age. She may have been illegitimate.

[CaroleW]

Unless I have the wrong entries - 1871 living with son James aged 36 but 1841 shows son James aged 20. 

1881 entry with birthplace Stroud was b 1832 & is unmarried

[Neale1961]

Son, James Davies born 1817
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J71Z-XY6?lang=en
Might be his burial - 31 May 1819 in Leominster? Age is not quite correct, and name is common, so I doubt it is same child.

Richard Davis bapt 1820
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W4J8-843Z?lang=en

If first James died, then another James born around 1821? No baptism record.

Henry Davis bapt 1830
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WW2R-156Z?lang=en

Charles Davis bapt 1833
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WWLV-7Y2M?lang=en

Elizabeth Davis born 1837

[NorthernGeezer]

CaroleW: I agree with your comments at post #2 and would question the 1801 birth for obvious reasons, although the 41/ 51/ and 61 census gives the correct age for an 1801 birth with the place of birth as Mansel Lacy, same as Uvedales
 At post #4, I have an 1871 census for James Davies, occupation Cooper, which is correct, born in the same place as his parents marriage, Hope under Dinmore, James was born in 1821 following the death of his brother of the same name in 1819.
James would have been 50 in 1871, the census shows him as 58.
His wife, Sarah Trilloe, was also born in 1821, the census shows her age as 49 which is nearer the mark.
Children listed are Thomas age 15 and Emily age 11, which tally.
Following Uvedales death in 1862, I accept Harriett could have gone to live with one of her children but it wasn't James.

Neale1961:  At post #3. I take your point, I cant find a Harriett Gardener at all born in Mansel Lacy and its too much of a stretch to assume one of the potential other 3 I have found in Hereford around that time are a good match, in fact there is no evidence available to substantiate this.
At post #5. I agree with everything you have said here, the thing that would clear it up is a baptism record for James 1821 but I cant find one either.
I think you are right, the Leominster death for James 1817 is not correct.
To further complicate matters, James son Thomas, born 1854, is my 2 times grandfather, everything tallies from the census records but I cant find a baptism record for him either although BMD throws up a couple of good GRO leads for Weobley.