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Offline Cornelius88

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Re: Family Search - Person Codes
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 22 May 25 15:36 BST (UK) »
When George married Mary Ann Gibbons, witnesses were John Horrocks and Elizabeth Horrocks. The signature of John is similar to the John Horrocks who married Hannah Ball in 1807. Image on Ancestry
Lizzie, I'm glad you changed 'identical' to  'similar' in your posting. Personally I would dispute that they are that similar, looking at the formation of the H, the Rs and the K in Horrocks. However, it's up to the OP to decide, not me.
Very good of both of you to take the trouble to look into this.  Whilst Hannah Ball generally appears on published pedigrees as the wife of John Horrocks, I agree the signatures are similar but I'm not totally convinced they're identical.  Another 'Hannah" is a Hannah Nuttall, who appears in some pedigrees.  She was married to a John Horrocks but in Eccles Lancs, March 1815.  I would rule her out because of the date and location.
My money is on Hannah Ball, mainly because of the location and dates, but I would prefer to have further evidence.

There's a public tree here:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/27750895?cfpid=370137664733&dtid=100

which has John and Hannah Ball.  They have a son, John H jnr (B 1809) who marries Elizabeth Winters.  I think John+ Hannah may have had other children, but they would be a subject for later.


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Re: Family Search - Person Codes
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 22 May 25 16:42 BST (UK) »
These baptisms appear if you search for children in the relevant period in Birmingham, parent John and Hannah

Hannah 1808
John  1809
Eliza  1811
George  1814
Mary Ann  1816
William  1818
Henry Walker 1820
Elizabeth 1822

I can't find a baptism in Birmingham for John Horrocks senior, but several in Lancashire. Worth investigating might be:

John born to a Walker Horrocks and wife Jane
John born to a James Horrocks and wife Betty nee Walker and
John born to a John Horrocks and wife Ann nee Walker
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Family Search - Person Codes
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 22 May 25 19:02 BST (UK) »
I can't find a baptism in Birmingham for John Horrocks senior, but several in Lancashire. Worth investigating might be:

John born to a Walker Horrocks and wife Jane
John born to a James Horrocks and wife Betty nee Walker and
John born to a John Horrocks and wife Ann nee Walker
I have found some of the children of John and Hannah but not yet investigated any of them in depth. 

Two of the published trees have John born to Walker Horrocks and his wife Jane, nee Ogden.  In the hope that this is backed by some peersonal family history/documentation this is the couple that I will investigate first.

As I have said upthread, the difficulty is proving that any John Horrocks who later appears in Birmingham, is the same John Horrocks that originated in Lancashire.

You've been a great help.  Many thanks for your time and trouble.