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Offline Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Re: Thrulines question
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 17:13 BST (UK) »
Thrulines are only as good as the trees it uses and if those trees are wrong the thruline suggestion will be wrong too. Many just follow the paper trail and ignore the DNA when it contradicts the paperwork.  An NPE or incorrect assumption about a parent are all it takes to throw a thruline suggestion out.

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Re: Thrulines question
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 17:42 BST (UK) »
I'm still trying to understand everything but I've added a screenshot the man in question, the lady next to him is his second wife, my 2x great grandmother.

Does this mean it's only a suggestion based on other trees? Because it's saying there are no dna matches?

Any help appreciated.

Yes, there can be discrepancies between what Thrulines show and actuals.

I rarely use Thrulines, I prefer to be within DNA > Matches, then apply Common Ancestors which is within the Filters menu.

I have worked through all my DNA Matches where the filter has been applied and link each of them into my Family Tree, being careful to validate correctly each one.  Once they have been included in my Family Tree they are then assigned to a specific Group and each is then given a * to signify that they are included in the Family Tree and presently there are 149 DNA matches who have the *.  Thus it is easy to see the status of those who still require research, those who are a mystery are assigned to a special Group.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Thrulines question
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 19:01 BST (UK) »
Thrulines does not consider clusters of DNA matches. It just looks to see if any presumed ancestors of yours is a presumed ancestor in your matches' trees.

My grandmother was born out of wedlock, and Thrulines suggested the entire line of her biological mother's later husband (not her father) was her own. Simply because he was from the same area, and among my matches happened to be ones who shared parts of his ancestry - enough to suggest that all of his lines and he himself was my ancestor. But there was no intersection of those matches. The alleged common ancestors were pulled out of multiple matches' trees who weren't related to each other.

This is the big issue for newcomers, there is a process and quite a bit of knowledge to doing this properly. It is easy for newcomers to just pick something out of Thrulines or their matches, where there isn't really a connection.

In particular if most of your ancestry is in a very concentrated geographical area, this can seriously muddy the intersections/overlaps of the matches. I have so many matches that come up with shared matches from multiple clusters, from maternal and paternal sides. I even suspected that one of my lines had infidelity on it. But it's just that almost every DNA match from that line, was also a DNA match from another line. I also have a few closer matches who are matches on both lines, and it's been those that have been key for unsorting those intertwined lines.


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Re: Thrulines question
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 19:54 BST (UK) »
Thrulines does not consider clusters of DNA matches. It just looks to see if any presumed ancestors of yours is a presumed ancestor in your matches' trees.

My grandmother was born out of wedlock, and Thrulines suggested the entire line of her biological mother's later husband (not her father) was her own.

Very much like my tree though my grt grandmother was married to Thomas but fell pregnant to 'John' with the last child (my grandmother). My tree shows John but is the only one to do so and the '1c' matches that only share 350cM just overlook the obvious as Thrulines uses the dozens of trees naming Thomas that are paper based.