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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 10:33 BST (UK) »
Directory of Home Counties (includes Surrey) - 1855 Part 2
https://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/361558/rec/5
No Surname Leary or Eden Street listed against "Beer retailers"

Part 1 of same lists several Victory pubs but nothing for Kingston.
 
Even Beer Houses with a name tended not to be named in Directories or on maps.

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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 11:01 BST (UK) »
HT, it’s possible that Eden Street was still Heathen Street at that date, as it is in the 1851 PO Directory, so off you go – trawl through that list again please!

Added: this site says that it had been renamed by 1854, so you are probably ok.

https://kingstonhistoryresearch.co.uk/eden-street-kingston-history/
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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 12:20 BST (UK) »
AB, thanks for the tip.
The '55 PO Directory shows the following as" Beer retailer, Heathen Street, KoT" -
Joseph Frampton
William Hills
Samuel White

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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 12:40 BST (UK) »
Brilliant HT!

1851
Heathen Street
Joseph Frampton, beer shop keeper

and nicely annotated “The Victory”
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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 12:58 BST (UK) »
9 August 1856: West Middlesex Herald

KINGSTON
Town Hall
Before the Mayor etc.

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Mary Ellis was summoned for keeping an unregistered common lodging-house—Fined 18s. 6d. including costs.

Joseph Frampton was fined 18s. 6d. including costs for a similar offence.
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Re: The Victory Beer House
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 14 May 25 19:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your help.  For what I've learned from the pages of the Surrey Comet, Mary Leary kept a very disreputable beer house and looks as if she was only land lady for a short period of time. 

Thank you also for Map - that was really helpful.  I havent been to Kingston for 40+ years and only then on short visits to family so dont know my way around.  My Mum was born there and although in her 90s still recollects parts of the area but correctly believed the Victory had long since been knocked down and area redeveloped.

Really appreciate all your help.

Regards
KPM
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