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Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« on: Monday 12 May 25 06:25 BST (UK) »
Alexander Irwin, born 1790 died 1883 married, it is said, Matilda Steen at an unknown place and unknown date. Possibly from Londonderry, but I have no certainty as I have been unable to locate any marriage reference in any database.
Apparently Alexander was father of James (1837) William John (1838) Matilda (1840) and Margaret Jane (1843) all from Londonderry. Margaret Jane married James Lindsay May 1871 in Victoria Australia and died 1927 at Atlestane, Healesville, Australia.
Your assistance would be most appreciated.
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 May 25 07:53 BST (UK) »
If he was born 1790 he would have been 47 when James was born & 53 when Margaret was born.  Could "Matilda" have been a second wife?
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 02:28 BST (UK) »
Matilda his second wife?
Why not? In any case how do we find their marriage registers?
Or even his death registration?
On Margaret's DC 1927 Victoria Australia, her father is known as Alexander Irwin and her mother's name as Steen. No sign of that couple migrating to Aus.
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 02:55 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at Matilda's Australian death certificate for information?
 If not, that should be your starting point.
I don’t know where you got birth and death dates for Alexander - plucked from …….?  :)
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 02:59 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 07:27 BST (UK) »
Re Matilda:
That's much more likely info than what I had found via a dubious family tree on Ancestry.
Very grateful to you.

I've been looking at the Northern Irish archive website and found the great uncertainty.
I have no idea which town/village this family came from; by the time they came to Aus they only refer to their County i.e. Londonderry.

Daughter Margaret Irwin married James Lindsay 7 May 1871. He gave Tyrone as his County and born there in 1844.

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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 08:03 BST (UK) »
Alexander Irwin, born 1790 died 1883 married, it is said, Matilda Steen at an unknown place and unknown date. Possibly from Londonderry, but I have no certainty as I have been unable to locate any marriage reference in any database.
Apparently Alexander was father of James (1837) William John (1838) Matilda (1840) and Margaret Jane (1843) all from Londonderry. Margaret Jane married James Lindsay May 1871 in Victoria Australia and died 1927 at Atlestane, Healesville, Australia.
Also a daughter Sarah born 'Derry' c1843.
Matilda Irwin (d.1883)- https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212674031/matilda-irwin
In same plot daughters Matilda (d.1905) & Sarah (d.1937)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212674084/matilda-irwin (obituary on Trove website)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212674001/sarah-irwin
Death: 1937. IRWIN Sarah, mother- Matilda STEEN, father- Alexander IRWIN, born- DERRY IRELAND, age 94, death reg.- PRAHRAN 5490/1937

This would be son James Irwin-
Death: 1923. IRWIN James, mother- Matilda SLEEN, father- Alexander IRWIN, age 86, death reg.- LILYDALE 11102/1923
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153300710/james-irwin
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 08:24 BST (UK) »
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Re: Irwin: Alexander b1790 d1883
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 May 25 00:35 BST (UK) »
I've got Irwins and a couple of Lindsays in my family tree. The Lindsays come via a Harris family from Limavady. 

There is a very large Irwin family around Limavady etc.  I think they owned a Mill also on the  Baranailt Road, out of Limavady

Somewhere on here there is a thread with info about them. 

The Irwins I link back recently to (relatively speaking)  are from the townland of Shanreagh

PS Though if you go back far enough they are all linked/related. Sometimes the name is spelt Irwine, Irvine, Irvin etc