Florence Hall born London 1883

[Sally4x]

I have a Florence Hall born in London on 14th May 1883. I haven't been able to find her birth record. Florence marries a Thomas Moore on 30th May 1909 at St Mary in Haggerston. Her father is named as Henry Philip Hall and I think it says he is a traveller. I can find a Henry Philip Hall who is born in 1865 and died in Shoreditch in 1929, but I haven't been able to find a marriage for him or him on a census after his marriage. I was hoping I could trace Florence that way, but haven't been able to. I would really appreciate any help with this. Thanks!

[Kay99]

Were Florence and husband William Thomas Moore living in Staffordshire in 1921 with Florence's mother Jane Hall widow - 67 born Highbury??

Sorry for  the mistake

[Kay99]

I found the death cert of Jane Hall in 1923 on the GRO but can't post the image on this board

Jane Hall 23 Jan 1923 Walsall Hospital Age 67 - Widow of Henry Phillip Hall Commercial Traveller (Tobaccco) Registered by daughter Florence Hall

Added - However I can't find a marriage or the family in the census 

[ShaunJ]

Were Florence and husband William Moore living in Staffordshire in 1921 with Florence's mother Jane Hall widow - 67 born Highbury??

Florence's husband was Thomas and he is Thomas in the 1921 census

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F13200%2F0461&parentid=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F13200%2F0461%2F08

Florence aged 38 years and one month (tallies), born St Georges, London.

[gc1]

Florence Hall marriage on Family Search

Name   Florence Hall
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   1909
Event Place   Shoreditch, London, England
Registration District   Shoreditch
Page   99
Volume   1C
Affiliate Line Number   264
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year   1909
Possible Spouse   Thomas Moore

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DNG-G9B?lang=en

[gc1]

Henry Philip Hall birth 1864 not 1865 on Family Search

Name   Henry Philip Hall
Event Type   Birth Registration
Event Date   1864
Event Place   Pancras, London, England
Registration District   Pancras
Page   120
Volume   1B
Affiliate Line Number   113
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year   1864

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XM8-GTG?lang=en


Edit: and dearth that states DoB as 1865 (Estimated)   
Name   Henry P Hall
Age   64
Birth Year (Estimated)   1865
Event Type   Death
Event Date   1929
Event Place   London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   London
Page Number   99
Volume   1C

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV41-3GWP?lang=en

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
1901 census 125 Shepperton Road London
Jane Hall widow 44 infant millner Shoreditch
Florence 19 book folder and pattern card maker Islington.


The Henry Phillip Hall you mention is with his family on the censuses till 1881.
he seems to marry  Ellen Emily Bishop Mar 1886 St Pancras

1891 32 Camden Passage Islington
Henry Hall 26 carman and Ellen 27 Devizies Wiltshire

1901 Cropley St Shoreditch
Henry P Hall 36 stoker St Pancras
Ellen E 37 Devizies.

The 1911 census says they had no children .
Henry Phillip hall remarries at St Pauls Clerkenwell 17.8.1924 Elizabeth Belcher widow father Daniel Richardson dec lab.
His father Alfred a printer.

So I'm thing Henry P Hall may be her father but it doesn't look as though he married Jane .But of course there could be another Henry P Hall out there.
Where are Florence and Jane 1891?

Ciderdrinker

[softly softly]

Needs further research but a strong possible.

In 1891 London Electoral register living at 93, Tabernacle Street, Hoxton, Hackney there lives a Henry Philip Hall.

1891 census 243 204 19    -  93, Tabernacle Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England

Jane   Hall   Head   Married   Female   37   1854   Living on her own means   London, Middlesex,
Annie   Hall   Daughter   -   Female   8   1883   -   London, Middlesex, England

The dates of the 2 occupants match nicely for Jane & Florence.

SS

[ShaunJ]

Another possibility in the 1901 census:

31 St John's Road, Shoreditch:

Jane Hall, wife, 41, born Hackney
Florence Hall, daur, 18, cigar worker, born Newington