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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 May 25 00:49 BST (UK) »
Name    Richmond Louis Frederickson
Birth Date    1883
Birth Place    Wakatipu, Queenstown.....New Zealand, Otago, Nouvelle-Zélande (New Zealand)
Death Date    25 mai 1906 (25 May 1906)
Death Place    South Africa, Afrique du Sud (South Africa)
Father    Neil Christian Martinaz Franz Frederickson
Mother    Emily Godfrey
Child    Arthur Frederickson
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https://gw.geneanet.org/craigd?n=frederickson&oc=&p=richmond+louis
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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 May 25 02:40 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast Crew Lists

R. Frederickson, age 17, born Q'town NZ, role - trimmer, ship - Ruapehu, from 5 Dec 1901 to 17 Apr 1902, first ship, Port of engagement address - blank, home address - ? st, Timaru, date agreement signed - 28/02/02, Place ?


The Ruapehu left London 5 Dec 1901 and voyage to end 17 April 1902.

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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 May 25 03:02 BST (UK) »
Lyttleton Times, 21 Apr 1902
SHIPPING. LONDON APRIL 18TH
Arrived - .....; Ruapehu, from Bluff


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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
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Name    Richmond Louis Frederickson
Birth Date    1883
Birth Place    Wakatipu, Queenstown.....New Zealand, Otago, Nouvelle-Zélande (New Zealand)
Death Date    25 mai 1906 (25 May 1906)
Death Place    South Africa, Afrique du Sud (South Africa)
Father    Neil Christian Martinaz Franz Frederickson
Mother    Emily Godfrey
Child    Arthur Frederickson
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https://gw.geneanet.org/craigd?n=frederickson&oc=&p=richmond+louis

I have seen this information. It was prepared by Craig Dahren. He is a blood relation but his report of Richmond's birth date is a year out. If he was born in 1906 the report of his death as recorded by the Timaru newspaper published 12 August 1905 is contradictory.

I have spent some time on the matter today. One thing that bothers me is Alice. Maybe he wasn't married at all. Maybe that is the town in Eastern Province where he was living at the time? If he wasn't married and had no family support, where would he be buried? There would not have been money for a headstone. Unless he had friends with money, he would have been buried in an unmarked grave, surely.

Is there any listing of appointments with the South African Constabulary? 


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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 May 25 06:12 BST (UK) »
If you google South Africa Constabulary service records (or similar) several sites returned.

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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 May 25 11:30 BST (UK) »
Linking to the death announcements:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ME19050808.2.6

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD19050812.2.8

The first one doesn't mention the South African Constabulary.
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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 May 25 12:34 BST (UK) »
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R. Frederickson, age 17, born Q'town NZ, role - trimmer, ship - Ruapehu, from 5 Dec 1901 to 17 Apr 1902, first ship, Port of engagement address - blank, home address - ? st, Timaru, date agreement signed - 28/02/02, Place ?


The Ruapehu left London 5 Dec 1901 and voyage to end 17 April 1902.

The record is noted "Failed to join"
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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 May 25 14:14 BST (UK) »
I took that to be the next trip!

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Re: Richmond Louis Frederickson (1883 - 1906)
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 May 25 05:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your help with this matter. He refuses to be found, and whatever secrets he has have died with him. I do not think I can go any further. Even the newspaper reports contradict the information I already had. I have to believe that he died on 24th May 1905, as the New Zealand papers reported and not 25th May 1905 or 1906, as Craig Dahren posted on the document found on the Internet. I have thrown that away as it is not at all helpful. Once again, thank you for your time.