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Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 05:12 BST (UK) »
Hi all - recently discovered that my gr-gr-grandmother was imprisoned twice in Paisley prison in 1873. I have the admission records, but I am hoping to find more specifics about the crimes, arrests, perhaps court records or witness statements. I have NRS reference numbers, and wondering if anyone here has access to the database.
The prisoner's name is Caroline Reid
first imprisonment was 5 Sept 1873, second one a few days later, I think. The NRS reference records are as follows:
HH21/39/5 p.244  and...
HH21/39/5 p.247

Anyone know how I can get ahold of these two records?
Thanks,
Kat
Scotland: Reid

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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 07:18 BST (UK) »
Have you tried wwwscottishindexes.com/prisontranscrip

There is a charge of £5.00 research fee for full entry

You could also try looking at newspaper's to see if there is a mention of her

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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 08:42 BST (UK) »
Not a prison record but I wonder if this is she?

Notice that in the case of James Strain, at the bottom, he was given the option of prison instead of paying the fine: perhaps this is what ended up happening in her case.

9 August 1873: Paisley Herald and Renfrewshire Advertiser
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 10:25 BST (UK) »
Certainly looks like her AlanBoyd
Index record gives her occupation as outworker

Rosie


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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 21:01 BST (UK) »
Have you tried wwwscottishindexes.com/prisontranscrip

There is a charge of £5.00 research fee for full entry

You could also try looking at newspaper's to see if there is a mention of her

Rosie
Hi Rosie, I did obtain the prison admittance records with dates and offenses charged. I am hoping to find court records or other that will give  me the details of the two offenses.
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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 21:05 BST (UK) »
Not a prison record but I wonder if this is she?

Notice that in the case of James Strain, at the bottom, he was given the option of prison instead of paying the fine: perhaps this is what ended up happening in her case.

9 August 1873: Paisley Herald and Renfrewshire Advertiser
Alan, you're a genius! THAT'S HER! Any chance her other arrest would be in the papers? The other arrest was on 5 September 1873 for "malicious mischief and breach of the peace" Thank you so much for your help!
Scotland: Reid

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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 21:07 BST (UK) »
Certainly looks like her AlanBoyd
Index record gives her occupation as outworker

Rosie
What was an outworker?
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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 May 25 06:56 BST (UK) »
Certainly looks like her AlanBoyd
Index record gives her occupation as outworker

Rosie
What was an outworker?

Someone working in field work

Rosie

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Re: Looking for detailed prison records in 1873 Paisley
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 May 25 07:04 BST (UK) »
Or…I thought it was one of those workers who did piece work at home for a factory of some sort.

Presume you have census records for her. What does it say on them?